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Re:Setting up Starlink by rubatuga on Saturday April 10, 2021 @03:33PM (#26764364)
We actually launched a service that provides you with a public IPv4 address and a /56 IPv6 block over WireGuard. It bypasses CGNAT and provides unblocked ports, including port 25. The cheapest plan starts at $8/month. Here's a link!

https://hoppy.network

Re:Setting up Starlink by mciancia on Saturday April 10, 2021 @04:27PM (#26764838)
Looks pricey, whats the advantage of that vs setting up wireguard on your own vps for less money?
Re:Setting up Starlink by rubatuga on Saturday April 10, 2021 @04:36PM (#26764912)
We are a managed service meaning you can sign up, download the WireGuard configuration, and forget about it. For a few extra dollars, you get reliability (we use BGP so we can failover to different datacenters), and clean IP addresses that aren't associated with spam or other cloud providers.
Re:Setting up Starlink by stingraycharles on Saturday April 10, 2021 @05:14PM (#26765185)
FWIW and since this is HN, I don’t think it’s pricey at all, it seems to very much match what I would expect a service like this to cost.

I wonder if I somehow can set up my Mikrotik routers to tunnel through you and transparently provide IPv6 for my whole LAN, that would be swell.

Re:Setting up Starlink by jsjohnst on Saturday April 10, 2021 @11:27PM (#26767266)
If you just want public IPv6 for your LAN, you could get address space for free from TunnelBroker.net and the setup for your router is well documented.
Re:Setting up Starlink by eximius on Sunday April 11, 2021 @01:23AM (#26767670)
The Mikrotik RouterOS v7 beta does include Wireguard support, though I haven't tested it yet.
Re:Setting up Starlink by stefan_ on Saturday April 10, 2021 @07:15PM (#26766170)
Wheres the IPv4 address from? Because if it's AWS, that's gonna be rather useless.
Re:Setting up Starlink by rubatuga on Saturday April 10, 2021 @07:36PM (#26766306)
We lease IPv4 /24 and IPv6 /48 blocks from a reputable IP address broker, check it against spam blacklists, and finally announce the clean IP addresses at a datacenter of our choice. We are not tied down to any hosting company. We tested a datacenter failover scenario and switched the BGP route from Chicago to Toronto, while a YouTube video was playing, and it didn't even stutter!
Re:Setting up Starlink by hattmall on Saturday April 10, 2021 @08:45PM (#26766652)
Do streaming services work? Anyway to make the IP appear residential?
Re:Setting up Starlink by walrus01 on Saturday April 10, 2021 @09:02PM (#26766705)
google 'residential proxies for sale' if you really want to do this, the big content sources are getting pretty good at distinguishing between last mile ISP blocks of dhcp customers and IP blocks that are announced in a colocation/datacenter environment.
Re:Setting up Starlink by eximius on Sunday April 11, 2021 @01:24AM (#26767680)
For most services that distinguish between residential and commercial IPs, your traffic is outbound so CGNAT shouldn't be much of a problem to route normally.
Re:Setting up Starlink by rubatuga on Saturday April 10, 2021 @11:15PM (#26767221)
Netflix works with just the "global" range. Their business vs. residential classification accuracy is probably near perfect.
Re:Setting up Starlink by tyingq on Saturday April 10, 2021 @08:14PM (#26766522)
The whois for the ip's in the screenshot say they are reassigned from OVH, and geolocate to Quebec.
Re:Setting up Starlink by rubatuga on Saturday April 10, 2021 @11:11PM (#26767202)
That's the prototype version.
Re:Setting up Starlink by doanerock on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @11:42AM (#26793877)
I am curious about your wire-guard setup. Have you been able to automate the setup or is it still a manual process to set up a new customer connection? I have been waiting for wg-dynamic to be ready because I dont feel like using static assignments. It looks like it could be a while until wg-dynamic is ready. What has you experience been?
Re:Setting up Starlink by rubatuga on Tuesday April 13, 2021 @03:11PM (#26797516)
Yes, it is fully automated. I don't think wg-dynamic will be ready in the next few years, or even remotely cross-platform when compared to the current wireguard implementation and popularity. Our code for choosing an IP address from our pool is really short, just a quick SQL query and a round robin selection.
Re:Setting up Starlink by coolpanda0 on Saturday April 10, 2021 @04:54PM (#26765037)
can by pass Chinese GFW reliably?
Re:Setting up Starlink by hirundo on Saturday April 10, 2021 @05:37PM (#26765376)
According to the story it's locked to a designated "cell" with a diameter of something less than 60 miles, so it would be just a nice modern end-table in China. The fact that it depends on accurate GPS and phones home continuously makes the geofence hard to hack.
Re:Setting up Starlink by tonyarkles on Saturday April 10, 2021 @05:54PM (#26765491)
I think they're asking about the Hoppy network, not Starlink.
Re:Setting up Starlink by rubatuga on Saturday April 10, 2021 @04:56PM (#26765055)
We would be glad to test it out with you, no contacts in China unfortunately.
Re:Setting up Starlink by nucleardog on Sunday April 11, 2021 @04:47AM (#26768645)
FWIW, from my limited experience with the firewall there--they do less banning protocols, and more banning specific endpoints people are using to bypass the firewall.

I never tested WireGuard, but, for instance, I had no issue connecting via OpenVPN to personal and work VPNs from China (on standard ports with no effort to hide). If you try and use OpenVPN to connect to any of the well-known VPN providers with it though, it will be blocked.

Even if you find it works initially, as soon as someone catches wind of it being used to bypass the firewall and/or they see a surge of traffic to your services, you're likely to end up blackholed.

Especially for a paid service, it's probably more of a support headache than it's worth.

Unless you're looking to make a stand, I'd probably just steer clear of the whole situation. It's illegal in China to operate an internet services without a license and it could come back to bite you in the ass down the road if you ever intend to do business there or travel there.