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Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by disgruntledphd2 on Saturday April 10, 2021 @03:32AM (#26759683)
So removing at-will employment wouldn't be a big deal then?

Sounds like it might be a good idea.

Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by bradleyjg on Saturday April 10, 2021 @08:20AM (#26760961)
The paperwork that nervous HR makes American managers go through is an entirely different world then the process, say, a police officer or teacher is entitled to be a combination of civil service laws and their collective bargaining agreements. I do not exaggerate when I say it is in practice easier to put someone in prison than fire a police officer.

So partly whether or not it would be a good idea would depend on the details of the proposed law, and how they would end up being interpreted by judges.

Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by disgruntledphd2 on Sunday April 11, 2021 @03:55AM (#26768412)
I'm not actually talking about public service unions here, just at-will employment. I personally think that lots of people in this conversation seem to believe that it's either at-will, or the public sector process when in fact the European experience demonstrates that there's a lot of space between these two opposite poles.

My position is that given all this HR dance to prevent lawsuits, at-will doesn't really exist in professional jobs, so it might be worth ensuring that this is standard across all roles rather than just those where the fired employee might sue.

Re:Amazon workers vote against unionizing in Alabama by bradleyjg on Sunday April 11, 2021 @11:54AM (#26771210)
If I felt confident that the law as written and applied would end up putting in place more or less what I’ve seen in corporate America:

- Do something egregious like steal or curse out a customer and you’ll be escorted off the premises

- For poor performance you can get a write up and a meaningful chance to improve before being fired

- You can be laid off just because your department / function / office isn’t needed anymore but they do something for you severance-wise

I’d support a legal change.