Yes, I do. I very much believe that the Wayland architectural decisions are motivated by non-technical reasons (look at who pays them, and who stands to benefit by controlling the majority of commits across the whole fd.o stack).

Well, you can imagine some evil behind everything if you wish..

Or just look at a technical video about it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWQh_DmDLKQ

I don’t see these conteos regarding linux, especially goddamn desktop with the minuscule user share. It is literally a hobby thing for some graphics enthusiasts without any sort of money. Yeah sure, red hat or whatever..

Except, I've seen this same exact song and dance routine played out already with systemd. Some RedHat developers make a thing no one wants to use, so they tightly couple many orthogonal concerns into one giant hairball, and they go on a road show to get a few crucial players (like GNOME and ConsoleKit, which was deprecated by the systemd devs) to hard-depend on it so distros have to choose between using the hairball or losing something that was entirely unrelated. It's a great play by RedHat, because now things are so interdependent that you need full-salaried developers working full-time on it, since the cognitive overhead required to understand how everything interacts now precludes a loosely-connected network of part-time volunteers from maintaining it themselves.

Oh, and this whole affair has the obnoxious side-effect of stirring up all the /r/linuxmasterrace dipshits into a feeding frenzy that spills over onto HN, where they scramble over themselves to spam everyone who dares disagree with the same half-assed links and excuses.

Or how about systemd actually providing features not found in its predecessors at all and it does solve system init and service life cycle management?

Do you think that the majority of the debian team that voted democratically multiple times on the issue voted purely because... Red Hat? Come on, it is ridiculous. I hope you are not as blind when it comes to real-life politics, because denying reality to this degree is dangerous.

You don't think that Debian choosing systemd had anything to do with things regarded as core components like gnome being tied to same and not wanting to maintain a fork of the same functionality?

Accusing the other side of an argument of being deluded doesn't foster useful discussion.

Interestingly enough the much smaller gentoo maintainers managed to package gnome without systemd..

It depends on dbus not systemd and that is replaceable module.

Just because you don't see the politics at work doesn't mean that it doesn't happen. Thanks for proving my point about /r/linuxmasterrace, btw.