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Re:Food waste responsible for 10% of global emissions? by bluGill on Friday April 09, 2021 @08:33AM (#26749714)
yuck. Frozen meat has a different texture and is not a substitute except in emergencies. Though if you are not for cooking yourself you probably have enough other bad things happening in your food chain that you cannot tell the difference.
Re:Food waste responsible for 10% of global emissions? by anjellow on Friday April 09, 2021 @08:46AM (#26749825)
This depends on how the meat is frozen. Frozen meat can be more fresh in texture than chilled meat when flash frozen and dethawed immediately before use. The process of slowly freezing food alters the chemical structure, while flash freezing maintains this structure and subsequently the mouth feel and flavor of fresh meat/produce.
Re:Food waste responsible for 10% of global emissions? by djrogers on Friday April 09, 2021 @10:34AM (#26751080)
> The process of slowly freezing food alters the chemical structure

It's not the chemical structure, it's the physical structure. Slow freezing causes large (relatively) ice crystals, which are more likely to break cell walls than smaller ice crystals. Those broken cell walls result in more moisture loss when cooking, and a different texture when thawed.

Re:Food waste responsible for 10% of global emissions? by User23 on Friday April 09, 2021 @04:27PM (#26755690)
And the difference is striking. I had some steaks from a freshly slaughtered cow not too long ago and despite being at best choice grade it tasted better than some prime steaks I’ve had.
Re:Food waste responsible for 10% of global emissions? by bob_theslob646 on Friday April 09, 2021 @08:45PM (#26757889)
What about vacuum sealing? Does that make a difference?
Re:Food waste responsible for 10% of global emissions? by em500 on Friday April 09, 2021 @09:05AM (#26750034)
In Europe, supermarket meat was was probably frozen anyway, according to Dutch Consumer Reports: ("Fresh" meat from supermarket often older than 2 years and frozen several times [1], original Dutch [2]).

[1] https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=nl&tl=en&u=http://...

[2] http://neerlander.nl/2016/09/07/vers-vlees-supermarkt-vaak-o...

Re:Food waste responsible for 10% of global emissions? by aszantu on Friday April 09, 2021 @10:46AM (#26751194)
local turk assured me the meat was fresh, but it aged weirdly when I let it sit for a few days, so I switched over to another butcher and e'voila, nice agey taste
Re:Food waste responsible for 10% of global emissions? by leetcrew on Friday April 09, 2021 @09:41AM (#26750435)
it's noticeably different, but it's not that bad. I often freeze the other half of an NY strip. a 14-18oz piece of meat is a bit much for me to eat in one sitting. it doesn't make much difference with a whole foods tier steak, but I wouldn't do it with a really nice cut from my local butcher.

agree that requiring all meat to be sold frozen is a step too far though. adding a tax somewhere along the meat production chain to account for the externalities would be a better solution.

Re:Food waste responsible for 10% of global emissions? by codebolt on Friday April 09, 2021 @02:27PM (#26754145)
Frozen meat is perfectly fine, I use it all the time. And even if it wasn't, should we really sacrifice the environment for the sake of our tastebuds?
Re:Food waste responsible for 10% of global emissions? by pcthrowaway on Friday April 09, 2021 @03:54PM (#26755275)
Funny you should say that, it's one of the core reasons many vegans and environmentalists advocate for avoiding meat altogether, as it disproportionately contributes to environmental impact. Turns out growing plants to feed to animals, and then growing those animals to feed to humans is less efficient than growing plants to feed to humans.
Re:Food waste responsible for 10% of global emissions? by codebolt on Friday April 09, 2021 @04:41PM (#26755855)
I can sympathize with that argument.

But the way humans raised animals prior to the last century seems a lot less problematic. If we reverted to a more sustainable, regenerative practice of farming, that would surely reduce animal suffering and not damage the environment to anywhere near the same degree. It would also create a lot of jobs. But if you're trying to feed 8 bln people then you will need to figure out ways to reduce waste in the supply chain. Like freezing meat.