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Re:Why do long options start with two dashes? (2019) by naikrovek on Thursday April 08, 2021 @08:14PM (#26745361)
> The shell uses "-" to enable an option and "+" to disable it.

things like this are how I know that there are too many people who are absolutely insane and who make mundane decisions.

    - to add
    + to subtract
absolute genius. is this what higher education teaches people? I didn't go to college, and maybe that was best.
Re:Why do long options start with two dashes? (2019) by dogecoinbase on Thursday April 08, 2021 @09:36PM (#26745856)
One of my favorites is in POSIX date format strings:

    %p     locale's equivalent of either AM or PM
    %P     like %p, but lower case
Re:Why do long options start with two dashes? (2019) by eyelidlessness on Thursday April 08, 2021 @08:42PM (#26745541)
Weirdly, this kind of syntactic idiosyncrasy is something that got me interested in Erlang. Finally a language that uses full stops when a routine full stops. I find most of the rest of its syntax uncomfortable (I didn’t spend much time with the language, I’m sure it’s fine when you’re used to it), but I always found it weird to end a completed statement with a statement-list-joining punctuation mark.
Re:Why do long options start with two dashes? (2019) by samatman on Thursday April 08, 2021 @10:23PM (#26746072)
This was inherited from Prolog, which ends terms with a full stop.

Most other languages didn't want to handle the syntactic ambiguity of using the period as a decimal point and a statement separator.

Re:Why do long options start with two dashes? (2019) by eyelidlessness on Thursday April 08, 2021 @10:37PM (#26746138)
I thought of mentioning the Prolog heritage. Weirdly CSS (having the worst syntax consistency of any language I can think of) is hyphen-heavy and solves its negation infix operator ambiguity well: it needs to be surrounded by whitespace.

For Prolog/Erlang, I think the preceding syntax is disambiguating enough

Re:Why do long options start with two dashes? (2019) by GoblinSlayer on Friday April 09, 2021 @05:48AM (#26748539)
COBOL terminates some statements with a period. And before that FLOW-MATIC https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLOW-MATIC
Re:Why do long options start with two dashes? (2019) by eythian on Friday April 09, 2021 @05:20AM (#26748369)
> I always found it weird to end a completed statement with a statement-list-joining punctuation mark.

But if you're producing a list of statements, isn't a statement-list-joining punctuation mark the perfect thing to use?

There's also the difference in different languages between statement separators and statement terminators, but I don't really know enough about it.

Re:Why do long options start with two dashes? (2019) by weinzierl on Friday April 09, 2021 @03:51AM (#26747779)
I always thought this is a Wirthism because Pascal ends unit and program with an "end." (with a dot), whereas function and procedure are terminated with "end;". (with a semicolon). I don't know about other Wirth languages though, maybe it is Pascal specific and not really something typical for Wirth?
Re:Why do long options start with two dashes? (2019) by macintux on Thursday April 08, 2021 @11:37PM (#26746422)
The punctuation in Erlang mirrors English so closely I find it frustrating when people complain about it.

It's incredibly simple. Comma means "and", semi-colon ends a clause, full stop closes out the entire thought.

Re:Why do long options start with two dashes? (2019) by toast0 on Friday April 09, 2021 @03:42AM (#26747726)
Erlang is great, and I got used to the punctuation, but it's kind of a pain when you're moving code around.

Oh, now this is the last thing, gotta take off the ; or replace a , with a .

At least when I was starting out, I'd have loved a more C-like syntax with {} and consistently semicolons. Of course, Elixir came and just got rid of most punctuation, which I like less.

Anyway, it's consistent and after a couple weeks of messing it up, I can consistently see where the mistake is from the compiler error; after several years, I still sometimes mess it up, but oh well. I can't recall having messed up the punctuation so much that it still compiled but wasn't what I meant, so it's almost always quick to recover.

Re:Why do long options start with two dashes? (2019) by antonvs on Friday April 09, 2021 @01:36AM (#26747051)
That's not a plus sign, it's a crossed-out hyphen
Re:Why do long options start with two dashes? (2019) by Y_Y on Friday April 09, 2021 @03:47AM (#26747752)
> "that's a smile, not an upside-down frown!"
Re:Why do long options start with two dashes? (2019) by throwawayboise on Thursday April 08, 2021 @08:59PM (#26745665)
+ is the opposite of -. Not too hard to remember.
Re:Why do long options start with two dashes? (2019) by niceairport on Thursday April 08, 2021 @09:14PM (#26745758)
Or just think about all options as being prefixed with a "-"