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Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by asveikau on Thursday April 08, 2021 @10:43AM (#26739322)
And the worst part is that you may spread it to somebody (or several somebodies) who winds up with severe illness.
Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by CryptoPunk on Thursday April 08, 2021 @11:56AM (#26740344)
You can shelter at home until you have gotten over it, and then you have immunity as well.
Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by exclusiv on Thursday April 08, 2021 @01:00PM (#26741168)
You can only shelter when you know you have it which comes after a period of being contagious and unaware.

"research suggests that people who are infected with SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, are at their most contagious in the 24 to 48 hours before they experience symptoms." [1]

[1] https://medical.mit.edu/covid-19-updates/2020/10/exposed-to-...

Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by CryptoPunk on Friday April 09, 2021 @01:42AM (#26747083)
Alternatively, the elderly can shelter at home until they're vaccinated. Hardly seems sensible for the world to be put on hold for a year for an illness that only a small subset of the world population are highly vulberable to.

The World Bank estimates 150 million will be pushed into extreme poverty due to COVID-related lockdowns:

https://www.worldbank.org/en/news/press-release/2020/10/07/c...

Education has also been severely disrupted:

https://www.unicef.org/press-releases/children-cannot-afford...

Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by exclusiv on Friday April 09, 2021 @06:18PM (#26756894)
Yes, except elderly need care. And we didn't have the vaccine available until not that long ago.

Your suggestion that you can safely just quarantine and not be a risk to others is flat out wrong because you are at your most contagious 24-48 hours before you have symptoms.

Also you may not have immunity after you sheltered and recovered.

I'll agree with you that the response was pretty terrible though.

Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by CryptoPunk on Friday April 09, 2021 @08:33PM (#26757838)
My point is quarantining the healthy majority for over a year, when they are not vulnerable, was not a proportionate response to the pandemic.

The links I provided give some indication of the poverty and educational disruption this causes, but unfortunately it's hard for people to admit that mass-quarantines were and continue to be wrong, because this issue has been politicized.

Maybe you're right, and quarantine after contraction of illness was not a fully effective method of transmission control, but just the elderly isolating, instead of every one, was, and is a much more proportionate and sensible way to deal with a pandemic that only the elderly are highly vulnerable to.

Re:Israel may have achieved herd immunity against Covid-19 by asveikau on Saturday April 10, 2021 @10:42AM (#26761819)
> only the elderly are highly vulnerable to.

This seems to be a big part of your reasoning but I don't think this is true. Yes, risk does skew there. But there are large numbers of non-elderly people who have been severely affected.