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Re:Cycling is more important than electric cars for reaching... by JoeAltmaier on Thursday April 08, 2021 @10:34AM (#26739214)
And while they're being trained, bicyclist get hurt. Its a difficult problem, and we're in a difficult place. I don't know of a good solution.
Re:Cycling is more important than electric cars for reaching... by u801e on Thursday April 08, 2021 @10:43AM (#26739318)
How does the bicyclist get hurt when the driver changes lanes to pass? Bicyclists actually get more lateral clearance when that happens compared to when they're keeping further right and the motorist tries to squeeze their vehicle between them and oncoming traffic.
Re:Cycling is more important than electric cars for reaching... by JoeAltmaier on Thursday April 08, 2021 @07:26PM (#26745020)
When they 'learn to change lanes to pass'. Because they're not doing that now, and won't all learn the same day. Until then bicyclist put their life on the line every time they go out on the road.
Re:Cycling is more important than electric cars for reaching... by u801e on Thursday April 08, 2021 @11:31PM (#26746398)
Do you have any statistics to back up your assertion that faster traffic does not change lanes to pass a cyclist taking the lane where taking the lane is defined as riding between the center of the lane and left your track? One experiment [1] demonstrated that motorists consistently changed lanes to pass when cyclists rode in the position I described.

[1] https://iamtraffic.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/BicyclistP...

Re:Cycling is more important than electric cars for reaching... by JoeAltmaier on Friday April 09, 2021 @08:43AM (#26749805)
Do you ride a bike? You wouldn't say such total nonsense if you rode a bike.
Re:Cycling is more important than electric cars for reaching... by u801e on Monday April 12, 2021 @09:43PM (#26787291)
I do ride at least 1000 miles a year on roads with traffic speeds ranging from 0 to 50 mph. I've been doing this for over 15 years at this point and my personal experience matches up with the results of that experiment I linked to in my previous comment.

Do you cycle? Do you ride in the primary position that I described earlier by default?