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Re:New Mexico is the second state to ban qualified immunity by mike_d on Thursday April 08, 2021 @02:57AM (#26735884)
> Qualified immunity was made up by courts

That is how our whole system works. The first amendment for example doesn't have an explicit "yelling fire in a movie theatre" exemption, yet the courts have defined tests that determine if speech is protected.

> We need a replacement [...] If you break the law - you should receive no protections

That is exactly how it works today. Once you have been found guilty in a criminal court, you no longer have any protections against civil cases.

Re:New Mexico is the second state to ban qualified immunity by stormbrew on Thursday April 08, 2021 @03:18AM (#26735986)
> That is exactly how it works today. Once you have been found guilty in a criminal court, you no longer have any protections against civil cases.

I don't think this is true?

The test is much more narrow than this. You could potentially be convicted of a crime even if you didn't have a reasonable belief that you were doing so, but qualified immunity explicitly dictates that you have to be intending to break the law or that your actions both violate a law and that there is extremely clear precedent that they do so.

That seems, unusually for civil cases, to be a much higher bar than criminal conviction requires.

Re:New Mexico is the second state to ban qualified immunity by nitwit005 on Thursday April 08, 2021 @03:20AM (#26735996)
If it's how the system is supposed to work, it's strange that members of the supreme court have complained about the lack of legal basis.

Interpreting the law, such as what the first amendment is supposed to mean, is indeed what the courts are supposed to do. Making up new laws wholesale is supposed to be the legislature's job.

Re:New Mexico is the second state to ban qualified immunity by pessimizer on Thursday April 08, 2021 @08:29AM (#26737885)
> The first amendment for example doesn't have an explicit "yelling fire in a movie theatre" exemption

Always remember that this was an argument to imprison people for passing out flyers opposing the WWI military draft.