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Re:Cycling is more important than electric cars for reaching... by lotsofpulp on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @02:58PM (#26729367)
Lower one’s expectations of quality of life and consume less.
Re:Cycling is more important than electric cars for reaching... by jonvk on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @03:18PM (#26729702)
There's nothing like cars to lower quality of life. They are noisy, require huge areas to be paved over, thus removing prime property in cities from more useful purposes. Particulate matter emissions from the engines, but also from brake and tire wear are unhealthy[1][2]. We don't let kids play outside anymore because we are afraid they will be hit by drivers. We kill animals after they hurt one person, yet we fear to cross a street anywhere for fear of being hit by someone recklessly driving a few tons at speed and defend the right to drive as though it were primordial. And really, who finds a street lined with parked cars and stuffed with traffic inching forward esthetic. A few cars are hugely useful to grant mobility to the few people who cannot get around otherwise, provide emergency services, and move bulky goods. I'm not saying plumbers shouldn't be able to arrive with their truck full of tools, just that the overabundance of cars really lowers the quality of life of the vast majority of people.

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Re:Cycling is more important than electric cars for reaching... by lotsofpulp on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @03:28PM (#26729857)
I agree with all of that, but people mostly perceive that they can't live in a large house on a large plot of land. Spread out living with requisite car transportation also creates a stratified society where you don't have to be near those you do not want to be near, which people might also perceive as a benefit.
Re:Cycling is more important than electric cars for reaching... by zip1234 on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @07:16PM (#26732840)
Bikes do not decrease quality of life. More exercise, more fresh air, and better health are all quality of life increases.
Re:Cycling is more important than electric cars for reaching... by jedberg on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @03:00PM (#26729405)
I don’t want to lower my quality of life so far that I can’t get an ambulance or have to be homebound once I can no longer walk.
Re:Cycling is more important than electric cars for reaching... by estebank on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @03:03PM (#26729448)
More people on bikes means fewer cars. Coupled with frequent public transport means that your ambulance will not be stuck in traffic and that the bus that lets you not be homebound will take as long as the car you currently drive to get to the same places. And if you still need to drive, you will still be able to, it just won't be the only option available.
Re:Cycling is more important than electric cars for reaching... by TomSwirly on Thursday April 08, 2021 @10:27AM (#26739109)
I live in a bicycle centered city and we have excellent ambulance response _because_ there is less traffic.

Disabled people have various mobility devices that go on the bike paths.

The quality of life is a lot better here.

Re:Cycling is more important than electric cars for reaching... by lovegoblin on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @03:27PM (#26729830)
The comment is an excellent exercise in reductio ad absurdum.