Re:Twitch will ban users for 'severe misconduct' that occurs...
by vsareto on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @02:36PM
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Companies were already willing to fire you for posting racist stuff before Twitch made this decision.
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Re:Twitch will ban users for 'severe misconduct' that occurs...
by malandrew on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @07:52PM
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The word "racism" has become mutable to the point where it has lost all meaning. Who knows what things that aren't considered in the least bit racism today will be considered racist in 10 to 20 years time as institutions that only exist to combat racism keep broadening the scope of what is racist to continue to justify their very existence (i.e. the Shirky Principle).
Re:Twitch will ban users for 'severe misconduct' that occurs...
by challengly on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @03:17PM
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Yes, but that was when we had an agreed upon definition. Now the definition is so broad it includes mere disagreement.
Re:Twitch will ban users for 'severe misconduct' that occurs...
by secondcoming on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @02:43PM
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Posting racist stuff just means you're stupid and the company made a mistake in hiring you.
Re:Twitch will ban users for 'severe misconduct' that occurs...
by dimgl on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @02:47PM
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The issue with this sentiment is that while some things are blatantly racist, there are other things that aren't so black and white. This is one of those slippery slopes where if left unchecked, anything and everything will be considered racist.
Also, you don't have to have good morals or even be intelligent to be good at your job. Some people are fantastic at their job, but are pretty damn "stupid" as you put it.
Re:Twitch will ban users for 'severe misconduct' that occurs...
by colinmhayes on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @09:41PM
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Examples of people being fired for saying things that "aren't so black and white"?
Re:Twitch will ban users for 'severe misconduct' that occurs...
by esyir on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @10:56PM
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Damore? Doubly so if you've actually read his report.
Re:Twitch will ban users for 'severe misconduct' that occurs...
by TameAntelope on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @02:55PM
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Isn't this slippery slope argument technically a logical fallacy? Wouldn't we just not accept the unacceptable change?
Re:Twitch will ban users for 'severe misconduct' that occurs...
by BitwiseFool on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @04:35PM
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Slippery Slope is not necessarily a fallacy because it's a very real phenomenon. My test is examining the "slippery slope" by asking if it instead "establishes a precedent". And then I see how easy it might be to justify going further down such a path based on past justifications.
Re:Twitch will ban users for 'severe misconduct' that occurs...
by TameAntelope on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @05:06PM
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Fair, I just don't see how my acquiescence to one thing is an endorsement of a distinct, if similar, thing.
I guess I reject the idea that policy (a well considered and debated, long lasting decision) would actually fall for something like a slippery slope.
The proverbial boiled frog just jumps out of the pot when the water gets too hot, in reality.
Re:Twitch will ban users for 'severe misconduct' that occurs...
by BitwiseFool on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @05:16PM
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I appreciate that, and for what it's worth I agree you that slippery slope/establishing a precedent is countered with concrete and well thought out criteria that need to be met.
Re:Twitch will ban users for 'severe misconduct' that occurs...
by adzzzz on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @04:26PM
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That the slippery slope is an inevitability is the fallacy, not that it exists. See also "Overton window"
Re:Twitch will ban users for 'severe misconduct' that occurs...
by kevinpet on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @04:27PM
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No, because of group dynamics. Once you start un-personing people, you have the in group and the out group. The in-group repeatedly redefines acceptable behavior to exclude some small margin. Repeat and you end up with absurd extremes.