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Re:Particle mystery: physicists confirm the muon is more mag... by goatcode on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @01:31PM (#26728055)
>the strong force and the weak force.

Is there a reason we're leaving "nuclear" off these forces' names now?

Re:Particle mystery: physicists confirm the muon is more mag... by quchen on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @02:49PM (#26729234)
I think this would be misleading once you dive deeper into particle physics. The strong interaction is really »the interaction mediated by gluons between color-charged things«.

• Gluons interact with gluons, without the need for quarks.

• Many (almost all) bound quark states are not found in nuclei, only uud (protons) and udd (neutrons) are. But there are also all the mesons (e.g. the pion), and a whole lot of other baryons (xis and sigmas and what have you) exist.

To put this into perspective, it feels a bit like calling electromagnetic interaction the »chemical interaction«, because chemistry is explained for the most part by the interaction of electrons. But that would leave out a lot of different ways matter can interact, like Bremsstrahlung, positrons, proton/proton repulsion, and all that.

Re:Particle mystery: physicists confirm the muon is more mag... by fctorial on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @01:47PM (#26728273)
They aren't tied to the nucleus of the atom in any way. It's just that they were discovered in phenomena involving atom nucleus.
Re:Particle mystery: physicists confirm the muon is more mag... by rocqua on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @01:33PM (#26728074)
I have indeed often seen the names referred to without the term "nuclear".
Re:Particle mystery: physicists confirm the muon is more mag... by a9h74j on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @10:19PM (#26734367)
This might be a new variant of: You can tell how old a national lab is by what they study in the "physics" division.
Re:Particle mystery: physicists confirm the muon is more mag... by goatcode on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @01:33PM (#26728084)
Weird. This must have changed in the past 10 years or so, since I've been out of college.
Re:Particle mystery: physicists confirm the muon is more mag... by dukwon on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @04:49PM (#26731053)
This (very important) paper from 1967 calls them "weak interaction" and "strong interaction": https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.19...

Putting the word "nuclear" in the middle seems to just be done in textbooks and classrooms.

Re:Particle mystery: physicists confirm the muon is more mag... by dylan604 on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @03:39PM (#26730017)
It's something you never get used to. As you get older, this will just keep happening. We used to put commas before the last item in a list back in like the stone ages when I was in school. My SAT score looked really lame for a bit of time when those suddenly changed.
Re:Particle mystery: physicists confirm the muon is more mag... by goatcode on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @04:29PM (#26730775)
I understand the grumpy old person archetype now. I feel like I've been one for a long time, but it's really hitting home over the past decade.