The antidote to civilisational collapse – An interview with Adam Curtis (2018)

Re:The antidote to civilisational collapse – An interview wi... by Mauricebranagh on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @04:09AM (#26721743)

It wasn't Facebook it was unelected media barons who hated the EU because they dint have the power they had locally.

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Re:The antidote to civilisational collapse – An interview wi... by midasuni on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @05:19AM (#26722214)

The media planting the seeds ever since the attacks on major over Maastricht. Ironically probably didn’t have an enormous influence come 2016 given how few people were reading papers by then, but the brainwashing about bendy bananas and Iraqi refugees had been planted. All it took was a leaflet from the “man of the people” saying iraq and Syria were following Turkey into the EU and bobs your uncle

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Re:The antidote to civilisational collapse – An interview wi... by makomk on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @06:19AM (#26722745)

Maastricht only barely squeaked through to acceptance in France, in a referendum with an even narrower victory margin than the Brexit one. (The UK carefully avoided putting it to any kind of referendum because its government didn't have to.)

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Re:The antidote to civilisational collapse – An interview wi... by nvoid on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @04:15AM (#26721774)

Citation needed here. Iirc, the media were quite anti-brexit.

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Re:The antidote to civilisational collapse – An interview wi... by pjc50 on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @04:36AM (#26721922)

Brexit was the result of thirtyish years of the media printing misleading clickbait about Europe, followed by uncritically publishing the "all upside no downside" claims of the Brexit side.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/15/brexit...

Besides, there's no boundary between "media" and "politicians"; early on while he was PM Johnson was paid more to be a Telegraph columnist than his official PM salary.

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Re:The antidote to civilisational collapse – An interview wi... by randomsearch on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @06:17AM (#26722735)

I think "culmination" rather than "result", because whilst I think the right wing gutter press (and I include the Mail and Times) were a factor, I don't think they were the most important factor.

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Re:The antidote to civilisational collapse – An interview wi... by phreeza on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @04:30AM (#26721883)

"UK press coverage of the EU Referendum" https://reutersinstitute.politics.ox.ac.uk/our-research/uk-p...

The report is based on analysis of two days of press coverage each week for London editions of nine national newspapers over 4 months of the campaign. Of the 2,378 articles analysed which were focused on the referendum, 41% were pro leave as against 27% pro-remain.

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Re:The antidote to civilisational collapse – An interview wi... by tremon on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @05:53AM (#26722552)

https://web.archive.org/web/20190531154332/https://blogs.ec....

The original site is no longer maintained and redirects to the new wayback machine, but that site is down, sadly. So here's a snapshot from the old wayback url.

Fake news about the EU was so prevalent that the EU started maintaining its own list. Note that one of the "journalists" that wrote these fake news stories was Boris Johnson himself.

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Re:The antidote to civilisational collapse – An interview wi... by raverbashing on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @04:42AM (#26721960)

"Citation needed": every article mention the EU in "The Sun", "Daily Express", "Daily Mail" multiple times and also "The Telegraph" for the posh version of most of the same crap.

"Media was quite anti-brexit" not really. Unless you really think the GDPR prevents kids from writing letters to Santa Claus

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Re:The antidote to civilisational collapse – An interview wi... by tim333 on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @06:07AM (#26722656)

Some media was quite anti brexit - The Guardian, The Independent, the FT, the BBC a bit. People had a choice as to which to read.

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