I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put me on the no fly list

Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by heavyset_go on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @03:51PM (#26716573)

By saying that you want a lawyer, it makes the results of interrogations without a lawyer very hard to use in court. If you're dealing with investigators that know the law and want a conviction, they'll hold off on questions until a lawyer is present. If you can't get a lawyer to be present, then that's a potential impasse.

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Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by cortesoft on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @04:21PM (#26716900)

Yeah, but if you notice, they fucked up this guys life without ever even bringing him to court. They aren’t dealing with an investigation where they are going to bring charges against this guy... they don’t think he is guilty of anything.

They are trying to brow beat him into being an informant. Their threat is the no fly list, which they were able to use without needing to go to court.

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Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by heavyset_go on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @04:23PM (#26716932)

Yeah, in this case it wouldn't have helped. These were not investigators that cared about getting a conviction.

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Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by cortesoft on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @04:30PM (#26717020)

Right, which is why I am confused why people are focusing on his not having a lawyer present during questioning. That wasn’t the issue... he wasn’t tricked into incriminating himself during questioning. A lawyer could not have helped him in this situation.

So why are people saying he should have asked for a lawyer? Sure, I guess, but that doesn’t help this situation at all. Why not suggest he should also eat a healthy breakfast before going to the FBI office? Yes, that is good advice in general, but doesn’t really matter for this situation.

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Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by heavyset_go on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @04:58PM (#26717304)

I can't speak for other people, but I was giving a general answer to your "What if you are poor?" question. For most people who are interrogated, even if they can't afford a lawyer, it is in their best interest to request one because good investigators won't risk compromising their case to get testimony they can't use.

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Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by cortesoft on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @05:07PM (#26717399)

Ah, fair enough

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Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by sbarre on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @04:23PM (#26716931)

No one here was looking for a conviction because there was no crime.

The goal here was coercion via intimidation.

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