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Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by mikesabbagh on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @03:18PM (#26716149)
USA is a beacon of freedom, Liberty and Equality
Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by ac0lyte on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @04:12PM (#26716795)
Am I correct in assuming that this is sarcasm?
Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by Anthony-G on Wednesday April 07, 2021 @06:34AM (#26722879)
It’s probably sarcasm but I don’t think it matters. A glib throw-away comment adds nothing to the discussion.
Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by hajile on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @04:35PM (#26717069)
I'd note that all powers not granted in the US Constitution are denied and federal police forces are definitely NOT allowed by the US Constitution.

Once again, it's just the garbage logic that EVERYTHING can potentially affect more than one state, so they have the right to control everything via the interstate commerce clause.

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Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by crooked-v on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @04:00PM (#26716673)
> None of these virtues matter when it comes to climate change. We can demolish your house, take your children and throw you in ocean if we have to to fight global warming and local cooling.

What are you even talking about?

Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by ttt0 on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @04:16PM (#26716840)
For example a Massachusetts official was talking about how they will have to "break the will" of people who are heating their homes or driving cars. Whatever that means.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muxVGmgykA4

Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by nitrogen on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @04:46PM (#26717188)
What were the next few sentences after that? Did someone previously mention breaking the will of bad emitters? Was he trying to say "there are no bad guys to break the will of"?
Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by ttt0 on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @05:11PM (#26717434)
Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by throwaway0a5e on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @08:18PM (#26719028)
As a masshole that doesn't even register on my "paternalistic-authoritarianism-ometer". At least he's aware that the public won't like what he thinks needs to be done.

Sure a NH or ME politically appointed administrator would follow that acknowledgement up with something about being bound to serve the will of the public/electorate but acknowledging public opinion is a thing that needs to be considered probably puts him in the top half of Massachusetts political appointees.

Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by TameAntelope on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @03:45PM (#26716496)
We found that those things help keep you from interfering with the freedoms of others.
Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by temp8964 on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @03:31PM (#26716337)
So what happens to people refuse to work for the cops in other countries? "Sorry for bothering you, bye-bye"?
Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by pjc50 on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @03:44PM (#26716480)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UK_undercover_policing_relatio...

The UK is also proposing a law to give informers and police widespread immunity from prosecution for undercover crimes: https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/spy-cops-law-bill-polic...

Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by xnyan on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @03:34PM (#26716369)
If it’s a government for the people, yes. If it’s a government for someone/something else, then make people do stuff for the other by threat of force.
Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by Quarrelsome on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @03:38PM (#26716417)
yes-ish. No government is immune to corruption but certain forms of government narrow areas of operable corruption whereas others can expand it. It's always there but just harder to exploit.
Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by temp8964 on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @03:39PM (#26716427)
I am asking about practice, not theory.
Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by giantg2 on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @03:55PM (#26716610)
"make people do stuff for the other by threat of force."

That's the basic premise of any state and society.

Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by praptak on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @04:05PM (#26716718)
That's exactly what happened to someone I know who refused to work for an analogue of a three letter agency in Poland. This was 10+ years ago though, so it doesn't say anything about the current state of affairs.
Re:I refused to become an FBI informant, the government put ... by BiteCode_dev on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @04:05PM (#26716728)
In a lot of countries, yes.