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Re:Do games like Factorio or Eve Online sap the intellectual... by gnulinux on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @09:59AM (#26711817)
All hobbies are "dorky" in a way (maybe except sports-related hobbies like hiking), they're considered especially so if one is obsessive about this hobby. Non-art hobbies, in my experience, are more likely to be classified "nerdy" as opposed to "dorky". I should note that, at least in the US for people in mid 20s, in the last few years (maybe thanks to Covid) "dorky" or "nerdy" sort of stopped being pejorative. Even in dating apps, it's normal for people to write stuff like "the dorkies things about me is... thinking about programming/gaming/drawing all the time" etc.

I would guess "dorky", "nerdy" are more mildly self-deprecating than pejorative nowadays. But this could change wildly from one area to another.

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Re:Do games like Factorio or Eve Online sap the intellectual... by Cthulhu_ on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @10:34AM (#26712243)
Sports are / can be massively nerdy tbh, some of them crunch more numbers and statistics than the average Eve Online spreadsheet warrior. And the bigger fans cosplay to the sports conventions.

Also, there's Football Manager, which takes the 'playing football' game out of the game.

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Re:Do games like Factorio or Eve Online sap the intellectual... by vagrantJin on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @11:03AM (#26712645)
Yeah, that football manager is still catergorised as a game is hilarious. I think I may have even developed a appreciation of the finer aspects of the modern games use of data analysis.

But I do find something attractive about games that keep someone's brain active. Never played factorio though my colleagues wax lyrical about it ad nauseum.

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Re:Do games like Factorio or Eve Online sap the intellectual... by notahacker on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @11:47AM (#26713310)
Football Manager once got described as being a game whose gameplay seems to have been inspired by accounting software.

Think I've completed that circle by suggesting to a friend working on accounting SaaS that he look at FM as UX inspiration...

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Re:Do games like Factorio or Eve Online sap the intellectual... by Der_Einzige on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @12:18PM (#26713761)
Sports players and fantasy sports players live in different universes. Almost zero overlap.
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Re:Do games like Factorio or Eve Online sap the intellectual... by watwut on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @10:26AM (#26712136)
Gaming is the most common hobby there is for males. And that includes men who do a lot of sport. They regularly happen to be gaming a lot. School drop outs game a lot.

Non nerds and non dorks have hobbies, always had. Having hobbies is quite normal and used to be normal. And frankly, playing computer games was popular among popular young boys for whole generations now.

"Dorky", "nerdy" never really described average gamer. It described small groups of people who had social issues regardless what they did - including sport.

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