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Re:Bruce Perens: On Non-Judicical Punishment of Individuals by eecc on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @01:55AM (#26708375)
Please refrain from libelous statements. I’ve never read anything from Stallman that defends any behavior a reasonable person would identify as Paedophilia, rather objections on the extremal formal definitions the US judiciary has for the status of “child”
Re:Bruce Perens: On Non-Judicical Punishment of Individuals by dragonwriter on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @02:46AM (#26708780)
> I’ve never read anything from Stallman that defends any behavior a reasonable person would identify as Paedophilia

Stallman defended legalization of pedophilia by name (and in the context of an overt political effort to eliminate age of consent entirely) and only recanted that support after the controversy over Minsky erupted in 2019 (which, given the somewhat related subject matter, also brought heightened, though not the first, attention to that advocacy.)

Re:Bruce Perens: On Non-Judicical Punishment of Individuals by jordigh on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @06:22PM (#26718112)
So, now you've read what I quoted about Stallman defending pedophilia, right? He calls it pedophilia, he says he's skeptical it's harmful. That's a defense.

Now you have read something you had not read before. I am glad to have shown you something you didn't know.

Re:Bruce Perens: On Non-Judicical Punishment of Individuals by sjy on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @03:22AM (#26709030)
> He directly addressed child pornography by saying that “making such photos should be a crime, and is a crime, but that is no reason to prohibit possessing copies of the photos.”

https://rms-open-letter.github.io/appendix

Re:Bruce Perens: On Non-Judicical Punishment of Individuals by eecc on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @04:07AM (#26709320)
Did you read what you quoted?

The point Stallman made, in the most deliberately urticant and confrontational possible way, is:

Are you willing to incarcerate people for drawings? However disturbing the subject?

> 26 October 2014 (Prison for cartoon) A man in the UK has been sentenced for prison for having a cartoon depicting a fictional child in some sort of sexual situation.

The advocates of this kind of censorship started by saying they were trying to protect real children from being abused in order to take their photos. Making such photos should be a crime, and is a crime, but that is no reason to prohibit possessing copies of the photos.

However, they have already gone far beyond that. No child was harmed in drawing the cartoon.

To criminalize possession of copies of anything published — no matter what it is — is oppressive, and leads to many other forms of tyranny.

Re:Bruce Perens: On Non-Judicical Punishment of Individuals by sjy on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @06:58AM (#26710385)
The part I quoted is clearly about photos, not drawings. I think arguing that possessing child pornography should be legal is “defending behavior a reasonable person would identify as Paedophilia.” Your reference to the formal definition of “child” made me think that you were unaware that Stallman had argued for this, and were attributing his cancellation solely to his remarks about statutory rape.
Re:Bruce Perens: On Non-Judicical Punishment of Individuals by joshuamorton on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @02:10AM (#26708490)
This is a subtle ad hominem. There are many reasonable people who would describe Stallman's particular pedantry around the definitions of "child" to be pedophilia-apology. Describing anyone who disagrees with you, including the person you're replying to, as "not a reasonable person" is unbecoming of hacker news.

It's also absolutely not libel, and it's rather silly to throw such terms around.