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Re:Writing tools I learned from The Economist by ectopod on Monday April 05, 2021 @02:21PM (#26702580)
Every newspaper that I've ever read does this. There will be a blurb on the letters page saying something like "We reserve the right to edit letters". It's clear to both readers and correspondents.

If you don't like the terms, don't engage.

Edited to add: newspapers in the UK take libel law seriously so you have some confidence they won't grossly misrepresent your views.

Re:Writing tools I learned from The Economist by TuringTest on Monday April 05, 2021 @02:47PM (#26702940)
It still doesn't make sense to attribute to a reader some words they didn't write.

Also there's a difference between the expectation that the letter can be truncated or just the gist of it extracted for reasons of space, and entire sentences or paragraphs rewritten in full. I would have never expected the latter even with a "right to edit letters reserved" disclaimer.

Re:Writing tools I learned from The Economist by Closi on Monday April 05, 2021 @03:16PM (#26703318)
The problem is that a letter that makes an excellent point might not make it with the required berevity and clarity.

A letter to the editor might read:

> I saw on your article about the size of foodstuffs that food items are not getting smaller - actually people are just getting bigger. Very interesting article, quite funny and relevant as I've been collecting food items since I was a child and can confirm that this isn't always true. I've got a few exapmles where it holds, but I also have a kit kat from when I was 18 (born 1979) that used to be 500g and now they are 250g as standard. I'm a big fan and this is the first time I have spotted a huge glaring error! Please explain that one!

Clearly that would need to be reframed. I'm not particularly good, but I can see why a newspaper might want to shorten it:

> In last week's article The Economist argued that foodstuffs were not getting smaller, however I own a standard kit-kat from the 1997 that is double the size of ones available in shops today. Thoughts?

The above is probably an improvement from a readers perspective, conveys the points of the original message, and they aren't usually attributed to a specific, identifiable person anyway (usually something like John from London) so I don't think there is any huge scandal here.

Re:Writing tools I learned from The Economist by Veen on Monday April 05, 2021 @04:02PM (#26703888)
That's what editors do. Everything you have read in a published book, magazine, or newspaper has been edited and often substantially rewritten by someone whose name is not on the cover or byline. Letters pages aren't comment threads; they're part of the publication and that means they're edited for style and content, just like everything else.

(As someone who writes for a living, I can tell you that it takes a little getting used to, especially when an editor butchers a sentence you're pleased with. But it's part of the process you learn to accept eventually — and they were probably right.)

Re:Writing tools I learned from The Economist by dylan604 on Monday April 05, 2021 @04:49PM (#26704518)
How I miss the days of reading text that has been edited. Today's websites seem to have completely eliminated the editing stage before release. One of my big pet peeves is when multiple authors are contributing where you're reading the article, and then the next author's section comes in recapping what you've just read like it was meant to be another stand alone article. There is so much redundant information that an editor would have caught easily. It also implies to me that nobody is actually reading the article about to be released from start to end, nor do they read it aloud. That was a proofreading tip from long ago as it makes the mind slow down instead of auto-correcting when reading quietly.
Re:Writing tools I learned from The Economist by dredmorbius on Monday April 05, 2021 @09:59PM (#26707163)
Katha Pollitt in a 1997 panel discussion discussing the difference in writing relatively unedited for (comparatively) small-circ publications such as The Nation and the heavily-edited, mass-market, advertising-friendly world of Glamour.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=fkLX58ZWbWw&t=14m20s

(From 14m20s -- 16m30s)

Re:Writing tools I learned from The Economist by ghaff on Monday April 05, 2021 @06:11PM (#26705312)
Yes, and while I generally get given final review on things these days, if I were working on a publication with tight deadlines, I wouldn't expect that. And I mostly don't do a great job with headlines anyway so I'm mostly happy to have editors throw away whatever I put in as a placeholder :-)

I do occasionally revert changes when I'm reviewing--usually because I wrote something poorly and an editor misinterpreted--but I reject relatively few suggestions. I figure that if I wrote something that confused my editor or they just didn't like it, a lot of readers will feel similarly.

Re:Writing tools I learned from The Economist by throw14082020 on Monday April 05, 2021 @02:38PM (#26702817)
Is "everyone does it" a good argument?. Clear to all? Not according to @bambax. Also, libel law? Why are you bringing up libel law. Manipulation of comments and fake reviews isn't libel.
Re:Writing tools I learned from The Economist by dragonwriter on Monday April 05, 2021 @07:26PM (#26705989)
> Manipulation of comments and fake reviews isn't libel.

To the extent the comment is atrributed to the author whose words were altered it can be.

An published, attributed comment is a published fact claim about what the author has expressed, and if it is false and damaging can be libel.

Re:Writing tools I learned from The Economist by Matticus_Rex on Monday April 05, 2021 @02:48PM (#26702952)
IIRC misattribution of quotes can be libelous in some jurisdictions if it causes harm to reputation.
Re:Writing tools I learned from The Economist by Emma_Goldman on Monday April 05, 2021 @02:55PM (#26703064)
The London Review of Books doesn't, and it has the best letters I've read.
Re:Writing tools I learned from The Economist by 1123581321 on Monday April 05, 2021 @07:21PM (#26705944)
LRB and other publications of that caliber receive enough submissions in their preferred style so as to only require light use of [sic] for errors. LRB letter writers are highly motivated to have their words be selected for publication.

The Economist wishes to publish from a wider set of contributors and its house style is harder for that group to imitate.

Re:Writing tools I learned from The Economist by Spooky23 on Monday April 05, 2021 @02:48PM (#26702960)
The town I grew up in had a local weekly newspaper that published unedited letters. It was fun — basically an analog message board.

One problem is that normal humans don’t write concisely. The other is that the Economist is a global publication... you probably would not be happy with long-form musings of Johnny Random from Papua New Guinea. You’re opting in for highbrow British style.