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Re:Google’s copying of the Java SE API was fair use [pdf] by burnte on Monday April 05, 2021 @01:31PM (#26701933)
Read Thomas' dissent, it'sabsolutely insane. He says how those 11k lines are basically 97.5% of Java's entire usefulness, and billions of dollars of value to Oracle from an Amazon deal. Absurdity.
Re:Google’s copying of the Java SE API was fair use [pdf] by jandrese on Monday April 05, 2021 @01:33PM (#26701947)
Thomas lives in a weird alternative universe where logic works differently. His dissents are always a trip.
Re:Google’s copying of the Java SE API was fair use [pdf] by burnte on Monday April 05, 2021 @03:47PM (#26703715)
He really doesn, he and Scalia were the reliable crazy uncles of the court. Looks like Alito is trying to take up Scalia's mantle. I sear to god if Thomas had to rule on a runaway slave he'd rule for the slaveholder.
Re:Google’s copying of the Java SE API was fair use [pdf] by ncallaway on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @02:20AM (#26708569)
I don't agree with this.

I _hated_ Scalia while he was on the bench. I fundamentally disagreed with him on a significant amount of his opinions.

Their actual opinions though are of such a different quality to me. Scalia's opinions I could absolutely follow the logic, and at times I found myself sometimes dispairing as I became convinced he might be right on an issue. Essentially, Scalia's logic usually felt on point to me, we just had deep axiomatic differences in how the law should operate and how the constitution should be applied to laws.

Thomas, though, I sometimes have a hard time understanding the argument he's presenting, and sometimes have a "how do you even believe that" reaction to his opinions.

Again, I think I disagreed strongly with Scalia opinions about as often as I do Thomas opinions, I just think they were for very different reasons.

Re:Google’s copying of the Java SE API was fair use [pdf] by burnte on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @10:39PM (#26720000)
I agree Scalia wrote very tight opinions, but his personal biases were in such intense conflict with the actual constitution that the internal consistency just dosn't make it fly for me. But I see your point.
Re:Google’s copying of the Java SE API was fair use [pdf] by whymauri on Tuesday April 06, 2021 @07:37AM (#26710645)
++ I almost always disagreed with Scalia, but he was a master legal mind in his written opinions. Like, they're not even comparable to Thomas or Kavanaugh, IMO.
Re:Google’s copying of the Java SE API was fair use [pdf] by esarbe on Monday April 05, 2021 @01:43PM (#26702064)
Yeah. He's got a strange mind.
Re:Google’s copying of the Java SE API was fair use [pdf] by GavinMcG on Monday April 05, 2021 @04:59PM (#26704652)
I agree with the majority here, but how is that crazy? One major point in the fair use analysis is that Android (for smartphones) did not directly compete with Java SE (for laptops and desktops). Showing that Android is a viable alternative for other Java uses, and did indeed supplant other Java contracts, seems relevant.
Re:Google’s copying of the Java SE API was fair use [pdf] by sn_master on Monday April 05, 2021 @01:56PM (#26702246)
What Amazon deal? Did Amazon pay Oracle to license the Java API?
Re:Google’s copying of the Java SE API was fair use [pdf] by monocasa on Monday April 05, 2021 @02:35PM (#26702786)
Yeah for the original Kindle. It's brought up in the court's decision.