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Re:Streaming subtitled box sets is the new Eurovision by f6v on Monday April 05, 2021 @05:37AM (#26696998)
They'll get cancelled, or worse, a modern-day makeover.
Re:Streaming subtitled box sets is the new Eurovision by pjc50 on Monday April 05, 2021 @07:49AM (#26697802)
Napoleon was ""cancelled"" within his lifetime by being sent into exile. In Britain, his name used to be used as a shorthand for dictatorial behaviour, especially from short men.

De Gaulle was again subject to what you might call the ""woke mob"" during his lifetime: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_68

People have to learn to cope with accurate presentation of what historical figures did, a lot of which was very bad especially for the losing side.

Re:Streaming subtitled box sets is the new Eurovision by ad404b8a372f2b9 on Monday April 05, 2021 @12:23PM (#26700998)
What's with the double quotes? Of course we want an accurate portrayal of the character, the good and the bad. The worry is it won't be so accurate coming from a contemporary American perspective.
Re:Streaming subtitled box sets is the new Eurovision by walshemj on Monday April 05, 2021 @12:58PM (#26701531)
I think going to the barricades is a much older French tradition and labeling it with the modern "woke" label -does tend to indicate your politics.
Re:Streaming subtitled box sets is the new Eurovision by pjc50 on Monday April 05, 2021 @04:00PM (#26703871)
That's what the sarcasm quotes were for.
Re:Streaming subtitled box sets is the new Eurovision by DetroitThrow on Monday April 05, 2021 @05:53AM (#26697081)
While I've read a bunch of critical media of de Gaulle, much of the media I've read of Napoleon seems to be tinged with his glory - I'd actually love a more critical review of historical Napoleon given his influence on modern Europe and the West at large.
Re:Streaming subtitled box sets is the new Eurovision by kazen44 on Monday April 05, 2021 @06:58AM (#26697454)
Napoleon is kind of a.. controversial character in history. let's not forget that the late 18th century was a bloody period in european history with massive societal change. It saw the removal of old medieval systems and them being replaced by more modern ideas.
Re:Streaming subtitled box sets is the new Eurovision by BlueTemplar on Monday April 05, 2021 @12:49PM (#26701394)
Absolutist monarchy is an (early) modern phenomenon, not a middle age one. Middle ages ended with the conquest of Constantinople by the Ottomans in 1453.

In fact, wouldn't Napoleon be part (and the end ?) of the absolutist monarch phenomenon?

Re:Streaming subtitled box sets is the new Eurovision by DetroitThrow on Monday April 05, 2021 @07:00AM (#26697472)
Oh, all the more reason for a more critical review of his legacy, I'm sure it'd be very interesting with a more objective/modern lens.
Re:Streaming subtitled box sets is the new Eurovision by watwut on Monday April 05, 2021 @12:15PM (#26700879)
You know, he is not celebrated in places where he brought destruction with him. As in outlook on foreign army in more informed by pillaging then by glory.

That is how countries typically interpret history - from their point of view.