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Re:533M Facebook users' phone numbers and personal data have... by anticristi on Saturday April 03, 2021 @01:56PM (#26683123)
I think part of the problem is that many orgs see security as an overhead that engineers do to sleep well at night. A few more breaches, a few more fines and it will finally be seen as a feature to keep the CEO out of jail.
Re:533M Facebook users' phone numbers and personal data have... by hunter-gatherer on Saturday April 03, 2021 @06:00PM (#26685122)
This is just it. I also work in the security industry, and the fact of the matter is that we (security professionals) can't give guarantees. I don't know what exotic exploit or bug will exist tomorrow. Security professions basically offer what (to me) seems like a crappy insurance policy. Depending on your orgs threat model, it is often just cheaper to deal with the breaches. --- I am not saying facebook falls into this category. ---
Re:533M Facebook users' phone numbers and personal data have... by anticristi on Sunday April 11, 2021 @02:41PM (#26772447)
Security is not a replacement for a data breach insurance. Security is basic hygiene for insurance to work at all.

To me, a good parallel is home insurance. If you get robbed, a good insurance will cover your losses. However, if said insurance determines that you were negligent -- say you never lock your front door -- you are on your own.

Do you have precious art at home that you want insured? No problem. Just make sure you add an alarm and sprinklers.

That is how I want discussions around security to be held. Are you a start-up with 10 users? It's okay to do minimal security. Are you a bank whose wires carry $1B? Make sure you throw sufficient "bodies" at the problem, from the top of the hierarchy to bottom.

Re:533M Facebook users' phone numbers and personal data have... by kevmo on Saturday April 03, 2021 @02:35PM (#26683482)
Probably 2/3 of billionaires belong in jail.
Re:533M Facebook users' phone numbers and personal data have... by aloisdg on Saturday April 03, 2021 @02:42PM (#26683540)
Probably most of them if not all.
Re:533M Facebook users' phone numbers and personal data have... by Judgmentality on Saturday April 03, 2021 @10:02PM (#26686344)
"Behind every great fortune is a crime."