Fortunately with AMD GPUs on linux you get both, as the proprietary driver simply adds some opencl support if my memory serves well.

Nope, older GPUs just get basic support, while the older proprietary driver, more feature rich, don't work in modern kernels.

Yeah, unfortunately it is not backported for older GPUs. But it doesn’t make the case of supported hardwares worse.

It does, because the hardware support for OpenGL 4.1 got broken due to ideology.

Well, it is still open after all, given you are a very experienced guy you should consider rolling the sleeves and sending some patches to fix that, right?

Giving back to the community for something you get for _free_ is nice.

My gratis work is done for things that really matter to fellow humans, like charity, poor people on the street and not so lucky people that need an helping hand to get back into society, refugees that almost faced death running away from oppressive regimes.

That is where I can gladly give my skills and money.

Fixing code on Internet for free ain't it.

Look buddy, your experience (having a bad time) with Linux seems to be quite frustrating, I couldn't find one positive comment about Linux from you in this post.

Maybe I'm very lucky with Linux, but I don't agree that it is as bad as you are saying.

I'm sorry for you, maybe you should stay with windows indeed. :/

My dear, maybe you should stop assuming you know anything about the experience of others.

Experience as in "things you are facing" not as "knowledge" or "know how" ;)

What I mean is more like "I would have a bad experience if I put my hand in the fire".

I edit my post to be more clear

I get it, you are happy with your Linux experience and think you know better than someone with 30 years UNIX experience, no more to discuss.

I don't, I just think that too much experience can cloud our vision or close ourselves from having better/new experiences in life.

From your friend over the wire.

The FOSS amd and intel drivers work great and have for years.

> The FOSS amd and intel drivers work great and have for years.

Intel has a random lock up in the Mesa. It had this lock up for several years. It has not been fixed. I have a 4k laptop with it, it is incredibly frustrating that I cannot use kitty or alacritty on it because of that crash.

AMD driver crashes on modern cards every few weeks.

If you want to have a "What are you talking about, it just works?" experience, you buy an NVidia card with proprietary drivers, slap X11 on it and you are off to the races. It just works (currently driving 4x 4k monitors). Last crash was about 11 months ago. The crash manifested in a freeze for about 20 seconds, followed by it recovering by itself.

OSS graphics drivers are just not as good as people claim.

I would have agreed with you but sound input broke for me (Lenovo flex 14 with AMD R5 3500U) on fedora with kernel 5.8 and didn’t get fixed until 5.9. That was months of something being broken. How did this happen and more importantly did we learn anything to prevent this from happening in the future?

For now fedora is on an old desktop machine with an ancient i3-2100 processor and I just ssh into it.

Some Intel GPUs only got Vulkan support on Windows.