Re:Convenience Is Destroying Us
by mensetmanusman on Friday April 02, 2021 @01:02PM
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Or summarize all human history including the concentration camps of today?
"Humans are selfish and vile" != "There are humans that are selfish and vile".
Re:Convenience Is Destroying Us
by mensetmanusman on Saturday April 03, 2021 @02:28PM
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It appears that when push comes to shove, humans on average return to selfish and vile behavior.
There have been accounts of divers, for example, losing their oxygen source and then in survival mode killing their best friend trying to obtain life-giving breathe.
This type of behavior seems to be the norm.
There are also many horrific accounts during hurricane Katrina along these lines. Some of these were covered by NPR.
It goes to show that if shit ever really hit the fan, you might have to be prepared for zombie-like behavior.
The parenting motto is “make it easy to be good”. For kids at least this starts with sufficient healthy foods, enough sleep, and some autonomy over ones own actions.
Re:Convenience Is Destroying Us
by FooBarBizBazz on Friday April 02, 2021 @10:06PM
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Some call this idea "The Fundamental Attribution Error".
> > Humans are fundamentally selfish and vile, and they will always oppress each other if given the opportunity and incentive.
> Speak for yourself.
Aren't you advocating confiscatory policies where you take value one person has worked for and give it to someone who hasn't? That, and the infrastructure to maintain it, sounds pretty oppressive.
A worker-owned collective is not able to abuse its workers for the benefits of its owners.
> Humans are fundamentally selfish and vile, and they will always oppress each other if given the opportunity and incentive.
Speak for yourself.