Zero click vulnerability in Apple’s macOS Mail

Re:Zero click vulnerability in Apple’s macOS Mail by rogerbinns on Thursday April 01, 2021 @06:10PM (#26666828)

A big difference is that the software running on Apple devices is less complex. For example there is significantly less hardware support. iMessage only talks to other iMessage instances (eg no browser support). There is only one web browser engine. Third party apps can't do JIT code generation. Older APIs are actively removed, breaking existing apps (vs providing backwards compatibility).

In general less complexity is better, but it also constrains things. For example it took until recently for third party iOS to be able to do NFC. Android had it since ~2012.

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Re:Zero click vulnerability in Apple’s macOS Mail by wunderflix on Thursday April 01, 2021 @06:20PM (#26666953)

> Android had it since ~2012.

I seriously wonder: what difference did it make? Was there any groundbreaking thing iOS users missed for 8 years?

Apple is just great in omitting things and keeping focus to deliver a great product and then expand on that basis.

Most famous example: First iPhones didn’t have MMS

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Re:Zero click vulnerability in Apple’s macOS Mail by musicale on Thursday April 01, 2021 @06:38PM (#26667130)

> First iPhones didn’t have MMS

Or cut and paste. ;-)

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Re:Zero click vulnerability in Apple’s macOS Mail by MartinodF on Friday April 02, 2021 @03:31AM (#26669654)

Sharing what's currently on screen (be it either a picture, a webpage or mean entire app) by touching two phones (Android Beam) was really convenient and ahead of its time. It is now being replaced by Nearby Share though, which works similar to AirDrop.

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Re:Zero click vulnerability in Apple’s macOS Mail by y04nn on Thursday April 01, 2021 @07:32PM (#26667594)

I think there has been a lack of interest in smartphone NFC because iOS has no support for it.

For example, I have set up a tag to automatically connect friends phones to my WiFi network. You can also stick tags on places to trigger specific actions/mode/app: office, meeting room, car, bedroom.

Also one thing that could have been great to share pictures/files/urls with your computer or other phones: Android beam [1]. Sadly Google is removing it.

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_Beam#Usage

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Re:Zero click vulnerability in Apple’s macOS Mail by musicale on Thursday April 01, 2021 @06:39PM (#26667143)

"No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame."

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Re:Zero click vulnerability in Apple’s macOS Mail by toxik on Thursday April 01, 2021 @06:39PM (#26667134)

MMS is whack though

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Re:Zero click vulnerability in Apple’s macOS Mail by tannhaeuser on Friday April 02, 2021 @04:01AM (#26669798)

MMS could've been (and still kindof is AFAIK) the only way to send rich text semi-anonymously for money with carrier billing ie not requiring platforms, app stores, and sign-up. Is was also blocked on Android due to the Stagefreight bug. MMS was used at lot for ringtones and wallpapers before the Smartphone era.

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Re:Zero click vulnerability in Apple’s macOS Mail by cromka on Thursday April 01, 2021 @07:18PM (#26667503)

I am guessing they already knew GPRS/UMTS and data plans were the future, hence they invested in iMessage. MMS already had an expiration date. Quite sure they only added it because of the PR disaster it had become.

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Re:Zero click vulnerability in Apple’s macOS Mail by cozzyd on Thursday April 01, 2021 @08:28PM (#26667939)

and MMS is still the only thing that works on every phone out of the box...

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Re:Zero click vulnerability in Apple’s macOS Mail by tuwtuwtuwtuw on Thursday April 01, 2021 @07:49PM (#26667698)

I often use MMS. Whats the expiration date?

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