Agreed. Too many companies are bragging about how much $ they raised in their last round. Too few are sharing the $ they plan to offer for the job they're trying so hard to fill.
Could we also please specify how remote a remote position is? It's a waste of time for both sides when a position is advertised as remote but constrained within a specific country or state.
Re:Ask HN: Who is hiring? (April 2021)
by dbetteridge on Thursday April 01, 2021 @02:18PM
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Agreed.
Knowledge is power in salary negotiation and the balance is generally weighted too heavily in the company favour.
Re:Ask HN: Who is hiring? (April 2021)
by alixanderwang on Thursday April 01, 2021 @02:24PM
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Thank you for pointing that out. I've just edited my job posting [0] after reading this to include salary and say it's based on experience/market and not negotiation.
[0]: Terrastruct
Arguing how much applicable experience one actually has is a central part of salary negotiation.
Exactly - there is no such thing as "no negotiation"
Re:Ask HN: Who is hiring? (April 2021)
by alixanderwang on Thursday April 01, 2021 @02:50PM
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At many companies, the offer is made with no negotiation on the table. I suppose some of this is posturing, but the companies acting on good-intent are saying "no negotation -- because we know this is a good/great rate for your experience in the current market".
Not only this, I've seen engineers with 1 yoe way stronger and more mature than engineers with 4+ yoe (that just slacked off somewhere).
Thanks for adding the salary range.
> Salary $110-200k based on experience (not negotiation)
What does “experience” encompass?
For example most of the companies dismiss my seven years of open-source contributions (it's — at best — a nice bonus). They don't care about anything that isn't what they call “industry experience”.
Re:Ask HN: Who is hiring? (April 2021)
by alixanderwang on Thursday April 01, 2021 @03:18PM
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Hiring managers/recruiters may filter those out, but I think if you're talking to an engineer, they can kind of discern whether those open-source contributions are meaningfully equivalent to yoe. I was working as a software engineer up until I started the company, so it's 100% meaningful signal to me!
Fantastic, I love it. Let's keep this going!
Re:Ask HN: Who is hiring? (April 2021)
by news_to_me on Thursday April 01, 2021 @02:39PM
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This is a great idea! Maybe we can encourage it by upvoting posts that include salary info.
That's what I've been doing! How else can we make this a thing?
While we're at it, send a note if you don't think someone is a good fit
All of my agreements. The Devops Engineers slack (devopsengineers.com) has been enforcing this recently, and we've had a notable uptick in the quality of job postings.
Some of us have transparent salaries :)
Yes! And I think that's great! When I posted a job here a few years ago I included the salary too. I'd love to see more companies adopting the same.
Updated ours @ Rokt.
Good call. Post updated. Thank you for advocating.
I am surprised this isn't already mandated.
Re:Ask HN: Who is hiring? (April 2021)
by MOARDONGZPLZ on Thursday April 01, 2021 @02:52PM
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I was under the impression that this was more of an unofficial thing, not an official HN feature.
As a community, I think we can agree that not everyone is great at negotiating salary, and this leads to unequal treatment. Out of kindness for our fellow HNers, perhaps we should ask, or even demand, of those who post here offering jobs to put a salary range on their job posts. I think that would help a lot of people not only get an idea if the job is worth applying for, but help people who aren't good at negotiating have a baseline to start from.
The companies offering jobs have a huge information advantage in knowing how much they pay other people and for some of the bigger companies, have access to salary reports across the industry. They also already know what their budget is. Why not ask them to share that a bit?