Why Computers Won't Make Themselves Smarter

Re:Why Computers Won't Make Themselves Smarter by jqpabc123 on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @12:17PM (#26649154)

We don’t need to completely understand intelligence to create it. We need to create conditions from which it can arise.

So you really have no idea if this will work but you have faith.

Godel's Incompleteness Theorem suggests this may not be possible within the confines of a binary logic Turing machine; i.e. a modern computer. See my reference.

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Re:Why Computers Won't Make Themselves Smarter by Viliam1234 on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @04:48PM (#26652975)

From your reference:

> his result shows that either (i) the human mind is not a Turing machine or (ii) there are certain unsolvable mathematical problems.

Well, I choose option (ii). Some problems, such as the halting problem, are unsolveable. Furthermore, for any set of axioms, there are problems undecidable with that set of axioms.

This entire proof is based on "artificial intelligence is not possible, because it could not solve some mathematical problems". But the fact is that humans also can't solve some mathematical problems, and they exist regardless.

You could have an artificial intelligence that is million times smarter than humans, and still can't solve some extremely abstract mathematical problem (that humans can't solve either). So what?

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Re:Why Computers Won't Make Themselves Smarter by rytill on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @05:59PM (#26653683)

No, I expect this to occur with high probability for the reasons I stated, and my rebuttal would be similar to the other reply to this comment by Viliam1234.

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