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Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s... by hashkb on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @10:08AM (#26647487)
With these types of "manufactured" performance groups I don't think there's any question that they are not composers. The Lady Gaga case (she promotes herself as a composer / guitarist / pianist) is much more of an intentional mislead, in my opinion.
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s... by mewse-hn on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @10:15AM (#26647590)
Lady Gaga has chops and is a real artist. This is a video of her performing an original composition in college:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NM51qOpwcIM

Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s... by hashkb on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @11:26AM (#26648473)
No argument there. Does she credit her songwriters? Is it well known that she doesn't write 100%? Or does that not matter to anyone because she's so awesome?
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s... by lenzm on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @01:58PM (#26650657)
> "I have worked with and written with some UNREAL artists who let me into their lives to create with them who deserved their credit and publishing, ..."

I think most people think she falls under this category.

Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s... by hashkb on Sunday April 04, 2021 @10:14AM (#26689544)
I know that the average clubgoerand radio listener assumes songs are produced entirely by the headline artist. From my life experience advocating for composers.
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s... by anonAndOn on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @11:56AM (#26648863)
Stefani Germanotta is a singer, songwriter, musician, actor and dancer of EGOT caliber. She's not just a pretty face, the lady has mad skillz.
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s... by zikzak on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @10:14AM (#26647571)
I have no dog in this fight and am not even really a fan but always thought Gaga was a legit artist. Do have any proof she's not?
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s... by jahnu on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @10:20AM (#26647664)
Performers who don't write or produce their own material are still artists and are as legitimate as any others!
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s... by kevin_thibedeau on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @12:19PM (#26649171)
These days a lot of them can't actually sing without autotune to clean up their caterwauling.
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s... by jahnu on Thursday April 01, 2021 @10:58AM (#26661244)
Still artists.
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s... by parenthesis on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @02:24PM (#26651016)
Yes, I'm not complaining that Tina Turner or Diana Ross didn't write the songs they sang (with the odd exception).
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s... by Pet_Ant on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @10:46AM (#26647983)
I'd say they are performers not artists. The girl running Photoshop is an artist, the HP LaserJet that prints it out isn't. We don't consider choir members to be artists, but if it's just one voice we assume they are?
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s... by jrace on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @11:11AM (#26648299)
The performance is the art. In your analogy printer = PA system.

Who doesn't consider choir members to be artists?

Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s... by gamblor956 on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @11:56AM (#26648855)
Members of the choir are performing artists. They make artistic choices related to the actual performance of the song, like how to sing the words written on the page.
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s... by hashkb on Monday April 05, 2021 @01:47AM (#26695705)
Members of the choir do not make those choices. The conductor does. The singers are the instrument in that case. Like a pipe in an organ. Their job is to blend and produce the sounds according to the interpretation of the conductor. Source: am a choir member. You will be fired if you interpret the music against the conductor's desires.
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s... by 1980phipsi on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @11:01AM (#26648187)
Now you're just getting into a war about what art is.
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s... by spoonjim on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @12:20PM (#26649180)
If Jascha Heifetz and Murray Perahia aren’t artists then your definition is theatrically absurd.
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s... by farfacy on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @06:50PM (#26654164)
Why isn't there a question about manufactured performance groups not being composers? There are manufactured performance groups that are composers and they look just like Blackpink. An example of such a group is GI-DLE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I66oFXdf0KU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3szNvgQxHo