Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s...
by intrasight on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @09:59AM
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My opinion is that they shouldn't care and in fact have no basis to complain. I consider it "work for hire", and they are being paid handsomely for their work. Do we developers complain when, if we work for Apple, that Apple takes credit for our work?
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Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s...
by gh-throw on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @10:01AM
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“Other workers are trying to get a better deal than me and should cut it out” is one of my least-favorite opinions on labor matters.
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s...
by nonsince on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @10:03AM
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The entire point is that they’re not being paid handsomely, they’re being taken advantage of. Did you even read past the headline?
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s...
by intrasight on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @10:07AM
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Most pop hits are written by a dozen middle-aged Scandinavian men. I'm sure they are paid very handsomely.
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s...
by psychometry on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @10:09AM
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Again, try reading the article before commenting.
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s...
by intrasight on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @10:12AM
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I've read plenty on this topic. Believe me, those writers who reliably put out hits have NO problem paying their rent.
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s...
by Eszik on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @10:32AM
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Have you read the article? "Credit" here is not meant as recognition, it's meant as retribution. Performers put their name down as writers/producers despite being no part of the songwriting process, taking a cut from the writer's revenue, and additionally get revenue for their performance + merch, concert tickets, etc.
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s...
by cestith on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @10:07AM
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Most songwriters write songs then shop them around. They're not typically freelancers writing a song for an act for pay. They're like small software shops writing source code, and then the company that licenses that code, compiles it, and sells it is wanting a copyright on the source and royalties on other licenses sold.
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s...
by intrasight on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @01:49PM
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You get whatever you and your legal team negotiate. Just like in any other business contract.
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s...
by cestith on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @02:00PM
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Yes, and when you regularly ask too much of the other party in those negotiations they band together and ask you to stop. Much like what's happening in the story.
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s...
by Rule35 on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @02:56PM
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Then they go on twitter and make it into a moral imperative to demonize you. Just part of negotiations.
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s...
by emodendroket on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @10:03AM
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They claim writers are struggling to pay their rent, so I think the premise that they are being paid handsomely is in dispute.
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s...
by EveYoung on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @10:05AM
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Even if developers don't get direct credit, just having these big names in their CV increases their value massively.
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s...
by intrasight on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @01:43PM
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I'm sure these songwriters put those big names on their CVs too
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s...
by psychometry on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @10:08AM
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>they are being paid handsomely for their work
Seems like someone didn't read the article...
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s...
by pjc50 on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @10:01AM
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> they are being paid handsomely for their work.
I think the complaint is that they aren't being paid "adequately", but without actual numbers it's hard to tell. I suspect few of them are making SV developer salaries.
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s...
by intrasight on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @10:04AM
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I suspect that the average is much higher than an SV salary. And the standard deviation is much higher too. More like in sports.
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s...
by jonnycomputer on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @10:11AM
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Well, sure, but the median is probably quite low.
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s...
by intrasight on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @01:44PM
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Again - similar to sports. Is somewhat of a "winner take all" market.
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s...
by dec0dedab0de on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @10:01AM
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no, but maybe we should
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s...
by intrasight on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @10:05AM
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Is simple. Just remove "work for hire" from your contract.
Re:Hit songwriters ask pop stars to stop taking credit for s...
by triceratops on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @10:12AM
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Have you read their contract?