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Re:A man who tried to redeem the world with logic (2015) by bawolff on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @08:19PM (#26642133)
This is a common saying but i've never liked. The world running on emotions is just another way of saying the world runs on logic, just the premises and goals are different than what we think they should be.
Re:A man who tried to redeem the world with logic (2015) by msiyer on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @02:03AM (#26643990)
I agree.

The "set of premises and goals" we currently operate upon are not ours, but planted by someone else (parents, teachers, media...).

Add to all this the fact that world may run however it wants, but the emotions are ours. If we alter the "set of premises and goals" we can alter our emotional response.

Re:A man who tried to redeem the world with logic (2015) by ironmagma on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @03:51PM (#26652208)
I’m pretty sure even a computer would agree that whether a defendant is sentenced to prison or not shouldn’t depend on whether the judge has eaten lunch yet.
Re:A man who tried to redeem the world with logic (2015) by vurpo on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @10:18PM (#26655920)
A computer won't tell you anything about what "should" or "shouldn't" happen.

If you were to (theoretically) simulate the whole judgement process with all of its real world parameters, including whether or not the judge has eaten lunch yet, the computer would definitely conclude that the result will depend on whether the judge has eaten lunch yet.

However, whether or not it should depend on that is a judgement that the computer can't and won't make.

Re:A man who tried to redeem the world with logic (2015) by ironmagma on Thursday April 01, 2021 @01:59AM (#26657091)
That’s a fairly baseless assertion to make. There’s nothing fundamentally special about the human mind that a computer couldn’t plausibly simulate eventually, and morality is included. A computer could just as easily develop morality as a human would. I would even argue it’s inevitable.
Re:A man who tried to redeem the world with logic (2015) by monsieurbanana on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @09:35PM (#26642598)
Which is like saying the world runs on chemistry interactions. Technically true, but we're losing practical meaning the deeper we go.

Because everybody likes tangentially related xkcd: https://xkcd.com/435/

Re:A man who tried to redeem the world with logic (2015) by bawolff on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @01:49AM (#26643936)
Are we?

Maybe this is an unfair generalization, but usually when i hear people say something like, the world runs on emotions, its used as an out to avoid having to understand where the other person is coming from, on the [BS] principle that emotions are irrational and unknowable.

Re:A man who tried to redeem the world with logic (2015) by imtringued on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @04:41AM (#26644869)
They are rational and knowable for the person holding them and irrational and unknowable for everyone else.
Re:A man who tried to redeem the world with logic (2015) by bawolff on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @05:54AM (#26645320)
I disagree.

Most people have poor self-awareness and don't understand themselves or their own needs.

I also don't believe rationality is subjective but an objective statement about the world. You might not know if someone else's actions are rational, but that has no bearing on how rational they actually are.