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Re:Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devi... by echelon on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @06:22PM (#26641304)
> The 30% cut was considered very good at the time. It was way better than the 50-90% cut that traditional publishers would take.

Why didn't Steve Jobs go with web distribution of first class web apps or allow Flash on his platform? If they truly wanted to be remarkable, this would have been the future.

The answer is control.

Apple is a cutthroat business just like any other, and their "privacy first" veneer is just a wolf in sheep's clothing. They're playing it up as an attack against Google and Facebook, meanwhile they still phone home about the apps you're running and can shut them off remotely.

Microsoft never taxed software on their platform. Jobs had to invent that business model. It flourished like wildflowers thanks to him.

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Re:Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devi... by kyralis on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @06:38PM (#26641435)
'First class web apps' was precisely how you were supposed to create apps for the first iPhone; the SDK was thrown together over the next year only after the huge demand for writing native apps. The iPhone pushed a bunch of device access web APIs originally explicitly for this reason.
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Re:Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devi... by sosborn on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @06:29PM (#26641359)
> Why didn't Steve Jobs go with web distribution of first class web apps

That was exactly his intent when he announced the iPhone, and he got absolutely obliterated by the internet for it.

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Re:Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devi... by anoncake on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @07:13PM (#26641692)
*exactly what he claimed was his intent. There's no way Steve Jobs cared so little about quality he thought web apps were preferable.
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Re:Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devi... by babypuncher on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @06:29PM (#26641361)
Not allowing Flash on the iPhone is probably the best thing Apple ever did
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Re:Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devi... by echelon on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @06:33PM (#26641403)
Destroying an open, low barrier to entry animation and application platform that was used by teenagers to develop and share interactive content?

Destroying a way to deliver native-like, cross-platform applications without an app store was good?

Jobs did it for control. He didn't want interop between Android and iPhone, and he didn't want any web browser with enough flexibility to do anything sophisticated.

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Re:Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devi... by babypuncher on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @07:35PM (#26641871)
Flash was a dumpster fire of bad performance and security vulnerabilities. It was also a wholly proprietary platform that did great harm to the openness of the web during it's reign. It was only marginally less problematic than ActiveX.
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Re:Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devi... by notriddle on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @06:54PM (#26641537)
Android had Flash. It stank, and the blame for its stinkiness lies entirely on Adobe.
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Re:Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devi... by echelon on Wednesday March 31, 2021 @02:08PM (#26650805)
Better than the neck brace we wear around our throats today.
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Re:Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devi... by babypuncher on Friday April 02, 2021 @09:22PM (#26677636)
Better than 100% open web standards? What do you think Flash got replaced by that warrants being called a "neck brace"?
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Re:Google collects 20 times more telemetry from Android devi... by girvo on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @09:24PM (#26642523)
Flash was absolutely garbage on mobile at the time.

Signed, a heavy Windows Mobile user.

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