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Re:Gallup: U.S. church membership dips below 50% for first time by tomp on Monday March 29, 2021 @03:38PM (#26627153)
Well, if you’re both religious and do good for the sake of good, then you can still be good without being religious. So that solves (1).

Morality is “rational” as a solution to a game theoretic problem. You can also derive it via evolution (which is also a game theory solution).

Re:Gallup: U.S. church membership dips below 50% for first time by Alenycus on Monday March 29, 2021 @09:33PM (#26630410)
Yeah, this is the fundamental disagreement. When discussing morality, I'm not talking about what you are. It is a law that overrides all of us, with true right and true wrong. Without a monotheistic God, these don't exist and morality doesn't either.

The morality your discussing is completely different.