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Re:The final official release of Classilla by phendrenad2 on Monday March 29, 2021 @02:00PM (#26625724)
It's sad that the internet has become primarily a tool for commerce. High security comes at a price (barrier to entry, pay-to-play, and lack of options). I wish for an alternative protocol for document discovery and retrieval, like the old internet. Gopher, maybe?
Re:The final official release of Classilla by duskwuff on Monday March 29, 2021 @03:34PM (#26627100)
> High security comes at a price (barrier to entry, pay-to-play, and lack of options).

What are you talking about?

Implementing secure online applications is easier today than it's ever been before. Free signed certificates are readily available to hobbyists through Let's Encrypt and other projects, and there are a number of lightweight TLS libraries available if you don't want to use OpenSSL, such as mbedTLS and wolfSSL.

Re:The final official release of Classilla by tyingq on Monday March 29, 2021 @04:14PM (#26627590)
I suspect they mean the level of effort to get a working web browser, on an older OS, that supports current websites. Of course, it's not just security (TLS, etc) that makes it hard. Browsers are very complicated these days.
Re:The final official release of Classilla by PeterisP on Monday March 29, 2021 @06:17PM (#26628980)
Well, that's the choice of these current websites, which wouldn't also want to support an alternative protocol if one (like the parent post suggests) would get made.

If you need a protocol for document discovery and retrieval like the old internet and have the cooperation of the sites, then you can simply use basic https without javascript, all the things that Lynx browser can support, all the infrastructure is still there. But you can't force the websites to support that if their operators don't share these goals and values.

Re:The final official release of Classilla by tyingq on Monday March 29, 2021 @06:56PM (#26629346)
"Well, that's the choice of these current websites"

Sometimes. For example, there was a pretty organized effort to make plain http websites seem insecure, even if they were just informational sites.

Re:The final official release of Classilla by thesuitonym on Monday March 29, 2021 @04:07PM (#26627510)
Perhaps they're talking about how you can't just grab any old computer and expect it to (at least partially) function?
Re:The final official release of Classilla by zdw on Monday March 29, 2021 @02:14PM (#26625976)
You're probably looking for Gemini
Re:The final official release of Classilla by blacktriangle on Monday March 29, 2021 @03:54PM (#26627346)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemini_space#Gemini_resources for those who are curious.

I ran into Gemini last week looking into lightweight markup languages and Gemtext seems like an interesting one.

Gemini really does seem like a heavy handed approach (in a good way) to creating a pure hypermedia system and avoiding the road HTML went down. No Code-on-demand constraint, no concept of styling at all leaving display totally up to the client removes a ton of the complexity. I saw Gemini defined as "a better gopher" and think that's fairly accurate.

Re:The final official release of Classilla by timw4mail on Monday March 29, 2021 @02:23PM (#26626104)
Http still works
Re:The final official release of Classilla by tyingq on Monday March 29, 2021 @04:54PM (#26628039)
Perhaps a reference to Chrome defaulting to https in the address bar soon. And whatever other future things put http further in the back row.
Re:The final official release of Classilla by unicornporn on Tuesday March 30, 2021 @03:54AM (#26632146)
...with warning signs all over the place.