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Re:How We’ll Know an AI Is Conscious by tim333 on Monday March 29, 2021 @08:08AM (#26620389)
Judging by the usual debates on consciousness, whatever the state of the AI there will be a big split on which definition of conscious it does or does not meet.
Re:How We’ll Know an AI Is Conscious by mjburgess on Monday March 29, 2021 @09:08AM (#26620959)
I dont think there's that much real debate except for the artificial debate caused by AI research grant proposals and journalists.

That is, it seems pretty clear whether we are with another being in a shared environment doing things together in ways that another being has, like me, a dynamic access to the environment and an ability to communicate it.

If I am walking along with another being, some road, and I ask it: what it thinks of the day; what it thinks about what i'm waring; what it imagines the weather will be like; what it imagines will happen if we keep walking on the road... what it wants out of the day, of life; what advice it has for me...

And if it answers, and its answers "share the world with me" as others do; ie., if I can converse with it about where we all are, and what problems we have, and what we can do about them... then these debates are essentially settled.

It doesnt matter "what else" it has. The being cares, imagines, acts, reasonings, believes, and so on.

The game AI-fantatics here play is to redefine intelligence, consciousness, and the like away from this reality of what we mean and what we want. They do this because machines cannot do this, so they define it to be "whatever they can do". This impoverishes our abilities greatly, reducing "speech" to merely "text generation", as if being in the world were incidental.

No machine has ever participated in the world with us, as we participate in it. Nor has any AI research, in any computer science department, actually offered a programme to do that. It's all just "building a better mouse trap".

Re:How We’ll Know an AI Is Conscious by rbanffy on Monday March 29, 2021 @08:20AM (#26620482)
My vote is "when it says so". I can't really prove it's not.
Re:How We’ll Know an AI Is Conscious by TaupeRanger on Monday March 29, 2021 @08:22AM (#26620492)
GPT-3 already says so. You can't "prove it" either way. Such is the nature of consciousness. Good luck using that metric.
Re:How We’ll Know an AI Is Conscious by jfk13 on Monday March 29, 2021 @08:24AM (#26620516)
Who needs GPT-3?

    printf("I'm conscious!\n");
There, it says so.
Re:How We’ll Know an AI Is Conscious by rbanffy on Monday March 29, 2021 @09:42AM (#26621384)
`printf` for a literal, seriously?

OK... The compiler will do your job for you, drop the \n and use a puts instead, but, still, it'll be very disappointed with you.

Re:How We’ll Know an AI Is Conscious by jfk13 on Monday March 29, 2021 @10:00AM (#26621660)
That's how I test the compiler's level of consciousness. Does it just blindly apply some predefined optimisations like an automaton, or does it enter into a meaningful discussion with me to determine my real intent here, and the best way to fulfil it?
Re:How We’ll Know an AI Is Conscious by beckman466 on Monday March 29, 2021 @08:27AM (#26620542)
Holy shit, did I just witness the birth of Skynet on HN?
Re:How We’ll Know an AI Is Conscious by auggierose on Monday March 29, 2021 @09:05AM (#26620933)
No.
Re:How We’ll Know an AI Is Conscious by devchix on Monday March 29, 2021 @03:49PM (#26627289)
The real Skynet will answer like this.
Re:How We’ll Know an AI Is Conscious by sullyj3 on Monday March 29, 2021 @09:07AM (#26620941)

    def main():
      print("I am conscious")