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Smugness makes no sense when what it appears is you have some deep rooted psychological issues that need addressing.
Creating accounts to post like this will eventually get your main account banned as well, so please don't.
I don't think it's "illegal"; the problem is that these kind of organisations tend to veer towards the toxic and hateful.
Incels are an excellent example of this; the entire concept was started by a woman struggling with her own involuntary celibacy and started a support forum. Good initiative. But over time things have become ... well, rather different.
A lot of the so-called "men's rights" groups have some legitimate grievances, and I have seen more than a few outspoken feminists underscore this. But having legitimate grievances doesn't excuse their terrible behaviour and attitude.
There are some decent groups for this; /r/MensLib on Reddit is pretty good. But the average is not exactly great.
My own view is that I have no problem working with women (though there are some women I would refuse to work with or be around in a social setting b/c of the risk). I suspect I don't mind because I've had a positive experience working in a research lab were the PI was a female, as well as one of the research assistants that I closely worked with: I did one aspect of hardware/software, she did the other.
Then, no, you're describing https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gynophobia
> Gynophobia should not be confused with misogyny, the hatred, contempt for and prejudice against women
Ok. That's sad. Best wishes.
But then, finally, your admitted smugness bothers me, as it reveals a deep lack of empathy for woman and why the culture is necessarily going through these fits and throws.
To what degree is your “live and let live” actually “live and let live or die, it's not my problem”?
I’ll be completely candid here: I have some kind of problem with women. This isn’t to say that I don’t like women or don’t want women to succeed. I just don’t want to associate with or be seen around women. I’m sure there’s some kind of deep reason for this, but I haven’t exactly been looking for it.
On the other hand, I’m a huge believer in the “live and let live” principle. I found a good way of reconciling these two sides of my personality. Whenever I’m thrust into a situation in which I must interact with women, I gracefully extricate myself from it.
I’m very sneaky about this too. Sometimes my departure can be performed swiftly, but other times I must maneuver over a period of days or weeks to get myself away from an unpleasant situation. I’m never overt about it, I never hurt anyone in the process, and I’m pretty confident that no one has any idea that I’m like this.
In the past I’ve had to abandon projects I was working on, and even ditched maintainership of a popular open source project because a female coworker started contributing to it. Given that I’ve been doing this for a couple of decades, I’m willing to say that I’d do more or less anything to get away from women, as long as no one gets hurt. Yes, it might take a while, and I might need to make some sacrifices, but I’ll eventually get away.
Of course this started way before Twitter mobs and cancel culture became a thing, so I can’t claim prescience. But I do permit myself a little smugness at this point in time. I think I’m pretty much cancel-proof.