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Re:Elon Musk’s anti-union tweet from 2018 must be deleted: U... by capableweb on Saturday March 27, 2021 @08:13AM (#26601762)
> nobody seems to be able to do anything about it.

Nobody seems to want to do something about it. It's easy, vote with your wallet. But since the choice is either A) help humanity by stop buying cheap consumer electronics or B) don't get any cheap consumer electronics to make your day 0.5% better, it seems we're stuck in exploiting humanity.

Re:Elon Musk’s anti-union tweet from 2018 must be deleted: U... by whimsicalism on Saturday March 27, 2021 @10:15AM (#26602395)
We are never going to "consumer choice" our way away from labor exploitation, it requires laws.
Re:Elon Musk’s anti-union tweet from 2018 must be deleted: U... by oarsinsync on Saturday March 27, 2021 @08:21AM (#26601793)
Not sure how buying expensive consumer electronics helps either, given how the excess profits continue to be captured rather than fairly distributed. There's even case studies celebrating these COOs turned CEOs for how well they've "optimised" their supply chains.
Re:Elon Musk’s anti-union tweet from 2018 must be deleted: U... by capableweb on Saturday March 27, 2021 @08:24AM (#26601802)
Well, my point was more to stop buying consumer electronics we don't really need, that just marginally increase our quality of life. Not that we should buy expensive electronics instead.
Re:Elon Musk’s anti-union tweet from 2018 must be deleted: U... by aksss on Saturday March 27, 2021 @01:30PM (#26603856)
Another option legally would be to disincentive the purchase of materials manufactured in those overseas areas to which you refer, or tax the bejesus out of companies using them as labor sources. I think there’s room for talk of tariffs and tax penalties for offshoring labor/manufacturing, and I’m not really familiar with other levers to turn that would fix this. Efforts to enforce better working conditions in other countries come and go, are easy to game and are quickly forgotten.

The parts of our society that profit off cheap offshore labor are quick to spin stories accusing people of being nationalist/protectionist/racist, but their profit margin is being defended in the process and the issues distracted from.

At the same time, if I lived in a largely agrarian society and factory work offered me the choice to get out of poor farm labor work, I’d jump at it the same way my ancestors did. I feel most of us can appreciate the value and prosperity that the global supply chain has brought, while simultaneously lamenting the destruction of domestic industry and the exploitation that has accompanied it.

We don’t have to be all-for or all-against, though I think when “free trade” agreements come up, they should be regarded very suspiciously, and when accusations fly about nationalism and protectionism, those should be seen as the cheap and distracting rhetorical devices they are.

Re:Elon Musk’s anti-union tweet from 2018 must be deleted: U... by 411111111111111 on Saturday March 27, 2021 @10:45AM (#26602638)
I tried that for a while. Some time later I found out that they source their products from the same factories and the only thing I've done is prove that marketing works if you wanna convince people to pay premiums for imaginary differences.
Re:Elon Musk’s anti-union tweet from 2018 must be deleted: U... by heavyset_go on Saturday March 27, 2021 @05:15PM (#26605701)
I'd rather actually vote for policy with teeth, and not pretend that my individual purchasing choices are going to change the world.
Re:Elon Musk’s anti-union tweet from 2018 must be deleted: U... by aspaceman on Saturday March 27, 2021 @10:19AM (#26602421)
Lol. “Don’t buy the things with exploitative labor.” Good fucking luck. Bury your head in a hole and produce squash or some shit.

There is no ethical consumption under captialism. Blah blah blah.