Re:Elon Musk’s anti-union tweet from 2018 must be deleted: U...
by colinmhayes on Friday March 26, 2021 @11:48PM
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All economies consist of labor and capital vying for resources.
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Re:Elon Musk’s anti-union tweet from 2018 must be deleted: U...
by dragonwriter on Friday March 26, 2021 @11:49PM
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> All economies consist of labor and capital vying for resources
Economies without property rights in capital do not. They may have other (and even more significant) problems, but they don't have that one.
Re:Elon Musk’s anti-union tweet from 2018 must be deleted: U...
by rsj_hn on Saturday March 27, 2021 @04:49AM
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"Economies without property rights in capital" is a convoluted way of saying "economies without capital", and so of course those economies do not have to worry about any conflict between labor and capital, just as societies without higher education don't need to worry about SAT scores declining.
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by mrkstu on Saturday March 27, 2021 @12:00AM
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An example of such an economy IRL?
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by darawk on Saturday March 27, 2021 @01:31AM
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NK essentially operates this way, at least nominally.
Re:Elon Musk’s anti-union tweet from 2018 must be deleted: U...
by dragonwriter on Saturday March 27, 2021 @01:22AM
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Lots of small-community, low-tech societies (very much “pre-capitalist” in the view of either capitalist or Marxist teleogical economic descriptions).
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by colinmhayes on Saturday March 27, 2021 @01:46AM
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Low tech societies still have capital. I was looking at givedirectly recipient stories, https://live.givedirectly.org/newsfeed/search?search=Kenya+C.... Almost everyone uses their money to invest in their home, livestock, or children's education. The push and pull between capital and labor absolutely exists here.
Re:Elon Musk’s anti-union tweet from 2018 must be deleted: U...
by dragonwriter on Saturday March 27, 2021 @02:05AM
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> Low tech societies still have capital. I was looking at givedirectly recipient stories,
I was referring to historical low tech, small community societies, not any places integrated enough with the modern global economic to have “givedirectly recipient stories”. But, that aside:
> Almost everyone uses their money to invest in their home, livestock, or children's education
Neither a home nor children's education is capital. Livestock is, but plenty of historical societies didn't feature private ownership of livestock (though it's probably one of the oldest forms of private capital.)
Re:Elon Musk’s anti-union tweet from 2018 must be deleted: U...
by colinmhayes on Saturday March 27, 2021 @12:11PM
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There aren't really any communities large enough to be considered societies and are so cut off from technology that they couldn't be the recipients of givedirectly. Homes and human capital are absolutely capital.