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Re:All my servers have an 8 GB empty file on disk by easton on Thursday March 25, 2021 @06:46PM (#26586583)
Then why not just tell Exchange to delete any emails older than 5 years (or whatever your lawyers tell you to put)?
Re:All my servers have an 8 GB empty file on disk by phaer on Thursday March 25, 2021 @07:09PM (#26586806)
I knew a place where Exchange was configured to delete all mails after 6 months. Soon after I discovered that people started to form circles in which they would forward older mails from internal mailing lists to each other to retain them longer than that.
Re:All my servers have an 8 GB empty file on disk by o-__-o on Thursday March 25, 2021 @09:30PM (#26587873)
Fannie Mae did this. When you have targets on your back you minimize the collateral damage from possible blowback.

Imagine getting sued and having the entire paper trail in your email going back 3+ years. I expire all email after 1 year.

Re:All my servers have an 8 GB empty file on disk by shard on Thursday March 25, 2021 @07:00PM (#26586721)
A previous company I worked for had a one month retention window in the email server. People just ended up storing email in their local machine's Outlook folder so they can refer to old emails.
Re:All my servers have an 8 GB empty file on disk by ianmcgowan on Friday March 26, 2021 @04:18AM (#26589837)
Or for the more technical folk with access to a linux server, setup postfix/dovecot, connect outlook to it and arrange for archived emails to go to the IMAP server.

The IT people get smart about looking for OST or PST files, but let's see them catch that :-)

Re:All my servers have an 8 GB empty file on disk by realaether on Sunday March 28, 2021 @12:38AM (#26607985)
Any pointers on getting started with the postfix/dovecot method?
Re:All my servers have an 8 GB empty file on disk by ianmcgowan on Friday April 02, 2021 @01:06PM (#26673371)
If you have a Linux box (or a VM), install and configure it to route mail and provide IMAP support. Digital Ocean has the best tutorials for this:

https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-set-...

Then configure a new mail account in Outlook and connect to the IMAP server. It's optional, but convenient for replies, to configure the account to send via postfix if you have an internal SMTP server to connect to.

I gave up on email folders years ago, so at the end of the month would just create two new folders in the archive account (YYYYMM and YYYYMM_Sent) and drag all the mail from the Exchange account into the IMAP folders. Et voila! You now have your own local email archive.

Re:All my servers have an 8 GB empty file on disk by chubs on Thursday March 25, 2021 @07:27PM (#26586960)
I imagine it looks better at discovery time to say 'oh sorry we lost these emails because we ran out of disk space' rather than 'we deleted them because we didn't want you to read them'.
Re:All my servers have an 8 GB empty file on disk by not2b on Thursday March 25, 2021 @07:57PM (#26587231)
No, companies need to be able to point to an official retention policy that says in writing that emails older then x months or years get deleted. Most do (including my employer), and it's because of legal discovery. But it feels like we're lobotomizing ourselves, as often the reason some odd thing was done was based on a long-deleted email discussion.
Re:All my servers have an 8 GB empty file on disk by bluedino on Thursday March 25, 2021 @08:18PM (#26587396)
And the right way to do it is with an archiving service/appliance
Re:All my servers have an 8 GB empty file on disk by dahdum on Thursday March 25, 2021 @08:33PM (#26587513)
Archiving is likely solving the wrong problem, for legal reasons they don’t want those old emails hanging around.
Re:All my servers have an 8 GB empty file on disk by MereInterest on Thursday March 25, 2021 @10:19PM (#26588151)
Sounds like the retention policy is also solving the wrong problem. If for legal reasons you want to destroy any potential evidence, maybe it's a good idea to stop doing illegal actions.
Re:All my servers have an 8 GB empty file on disk by disgruntledphd2 on Friday March 26, 2021 @05:05AM (#26590078)
It's not necessarily illegal actions, just those that would look bad in discovery. Lawyers (as always) tend to err on the side of caution.
Re:All my servers have an 8 GB empty file on disk by anitil on Sunday March 28, 2021 @11:44PM (#26617507)
I remember Matt Levine talking about how regulators would often find emails along the line of "Let's sell this crap to those idiots" and use that as leverage to force settlements rather than showing actual violation of regulations.

The reason being that it's hard to show intent to defraud, and much easier to threaten bad press.

Re:All my servers have an 8 GB empty file on disk by not2b on Friday March 26, 2021 @11:47AM (#26593472)
Thanks to patents, everyone in technology is doing "illegal actions" all the time, since you can't do anything without infringing hundreds of patents. And if you can find an email somewhere indicating that someone knows that a competitor has feature X, or knows about the existence of a patent, viola, evidence of knowing infringement! Triple damages under US law.