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Re:Do you really want Linux phones by Apocryphon on Wednesday March 24, 2021 @11:36PM (#26576321)
I'm not even sure if most users who use Linux computers actually want Linux computers. If they do, why are there so many attempts towards recreating the macOS UI and UX in Linux, such as with Elementary OS? Or back in the '90s/'00s, attempts towards recreating the Windows UI/UX?

Maybe people also do just want general open-source computing, and Linux just happens to be the one that's furthest along, its philosophy and ideology be damned.

Personally, I'm hoping Haiku eventually gets further along to be usable as a Linux alternative, and it's fun to wonder what it would be like as a mobile OS.

Re:Do you really want Linux phones by axiolite on Thursday March 25, 2021 @03:16AM (#26577293)
> why are there so many attempts towards recreating the macOS UI and UX in Linux

I imagine it's because, when the year of the Linux desktop didn't arrive, developers everywhere decided they could make it happen if only they tried hard enough to put together the perfect UI, and so the kitchen-sink approach proliferated.

> Or back in the '90s/'00s, attempts towards recreating the Windows UI/UX?

I take exception to this one. In fact it was Microsoft with Windows 7 (released in 2007) which copied much of the UI of older Linux desktops like KDE and GNOME versions 1.0 (circa 1997). See:

https://linuxgazette.net/165/misc/laycock/gnome.png https://images.channelpartner.de/bdb/490847/1066x600.jpg

Linux desktop environments were better back then. XFce is the only tolerable one I can think of, today. Even there, I hate the defaults and preferred it in the XFce3 days when it was just an (improved) CDE clone. Fluxbox or bust!

Re:Do you really want Linux phones by Apocryphon on Thursday March 25, 2021 @04:12AM (#26577546)
Lindows came out in August 2001.

There's also ReactOS, though admittedly it's a non-Linux open source OS.

Re:Do you really want Linux phones by modo_mario on Thursday March 25, 2021 @07:27AM (#26578897)
>I'm not even sure if most users who use Linux computers actually want Linux computers. If they do, why are there so many attempts towards recreating the macOS UI and UX in Linux, such as with Elementary OS?

Why the hell do you think those things are related? I can easily make my OS look macOS, windows, something weird inbetween or some pink vapourwave hell from the 90's or some minimalist tiling WM and that's the beauty of it. That's exactly one of the things I want.

I don't use Linux because of a particular DE with presets that let's me mimic windows. If that was all why wouldn't I just use windows.

Re:Do you really want Linux phones by Apocryphon on Friday March 26, 2021 @02:59AM (#26589470)
The original post says the following-

> I don't think most people who buy a Linux phone actually want a Linux phone. They want an open-source phone. The Linux philosophy isn't important to them, they essentially want open-source iOS

Seems like the phenomenon of people choosing Linux, only to choose a windows manager that makes the entire thing look like a non-open OS, fits this same line of thinking. At the end of the day, most people don't care about the particulars of Linux, or its ideologies. They just want an open and customizable OS, and if there's a variant that looks like a more widely-used OS, so much as the better.

If there were more open OS's that were as far along as Linux, it would likely be less popular. The important thing is open-source phones or computers, not Linux ones.

Re:Do you really want Linux phones by skinkestek on Thursday March 25, 2021 @02:13AM (#26577036)
I'm one of those and have been for 20 years.

Yes, KDE has copied Windows features.

But: they made it better (for people like me). I didn't get Windows, but something that happened to look similar but work better.

And the latest big Windows update copied a good deal of styling from KDE Plasma so they are clearly doing something interesting :-)

Re:Do you really want Linux phones by realusername on Thursday March 25, 2021 @03:48AM (#26577416)
> many attempts towards recreating the macOS UI and UX in Linux, such as with Elementary OS?

I personally use Elementary daily and I really don't like OSX, they only superficially look similar but it's a very different mindset and UX.

Re:Do you really want Linux phones by Apocryphon on Thursday March 25, 2021 @04:14AM (#26577564)
Re:Do you really want Linux phones by UncleSlacky on Thursday March 25, 2021 @10:08AM (#26580471)
There's also one for BSD:

https://github.com/helloSystem/hello