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Re:Intel Unleashed, Gelsinger on Intel, IDM 2.0 by thereddaikon on Wednesday March 24, 2021 @01:18PM (#26570166)
They are. The last few years have caused a fairly major change in American's attitude towards China and Taiwan. In the past the US gave Taiwan half hearted support, some tech here, old destroyers there etc. Their military was a mix of obsolete hand me downs and domestically developed solutions. But we just sold them the latest and greatest F-16 variant. Just the other day a deal was signed to share technology to help Taiwan develop modern submarines. And there's a lot more going on behind the scenes no doubt.
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Re:Intel Unleashed, Gelsinger on Intel, IDM 2.0 by tlear on Wednesday March 24, 2021 @05:49PM (#26573416)
Original step to help with manufacturing of the subs came when US brokered a deal with MHI 3 years ago. The somehow magically "retired" MHI engineers appeared in Taiwan to help in development

US does not have expertise to make modern non-nuclear subs. China can intimidate anyone in Europe not to sell. It was fortunate for Taiwan that Chinese pissed off Japan enough. Half a dozen of Soryu knockoffs can shut down PRC maritime trade if needed.

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Re:Intel Unleashed, Gelsinger on Intel, IDM 2.0 by Der_Einzige on Wednesday March 24, 2021 @01:24PM (#26570256)
Trump's policies towards communist china were so bad that rex tilerson is on record as saying that at the end of his time working for trump we were farther behind with china than we were when he took office.

Biden has to repair our US hegemony. Trump sure hurt it a lot in spite of his anti-china rehtoric.

Selling weapons to taiwan doesn't contain china. We will send our own guns if a hot war is brewing there.

Taiwan recognition is not the same thing as meaningfully containing china. The TPP and asia pivot from obama was the last time that america seriously tried to restrain the rise of china.

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Re:Intel Unleashed, Gelsinger on Intel, IDM 2.0 by mlyle on Wednesday March 24, 2021 @02:07PM (#26570871)
> Selling weapons to taiwan doesn't contain china. We will send our own guns if a hot war is brewing there.

All of these states need to be strong enough to be a credible deterrent to invasion on their own.

US support is neither speedy nor certain. And a speedy capitulation by Taiwan compromises the US's ability to help even if willing.

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Re:Intel Unleashed, Gelsinger on Intel, IDM 2.0 by VRay on Wednesday March 24, 2021 @01:45PM (#26570559)
You mean this? This is what you wanted? https://www.eff.org/issues/tpp
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Re:Intel Unleashed, Gelsinger on Intel, IDM 2.0 by ethbr0 on Wednesday March 24, 2021 @01:47PM (#26570588)
Parent's point was the TPP was explicitly designed to economically isolate China from its neighbors.

Trade deals are ugly.

But if your geopolitical goal is to prevent Asia from moving closer to China, you can, and we have, done worse than the TPP.

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Re:Intel Unleashed, Gelsinger on Intel, IDM 2.0 by bellyfullofbac on Wednesday March 24, 2021 @02:38PM (#26571277)
Yeah, and then Trump pulled out of TPP, and last year everyone signed this deal, including China: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regional_Comprehensive_Economi...

And people still celebrate Trump for being tough on China...

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Re:Intel Unleashed, Gelsinger on Intel, IDM 2.0 by Der_Einzige on Wednesday March 24, 2021 @02:43PM (#26571339)
I personally oppose the TPP on the intellectual property grounds et al brought up here - but its purpose to contain china is what I was highlighting.
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Re:Intel Unleashed, Gelsinger on Intel, IDM 2.0 by xxpor on Wednesday March 24, 2021 @02:12PM (#26570935)
Whoop de do. Yeah the copyright stuff sucks but a hot war sucks worse. Don't lose the forest for the trees here.
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