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Re:PinePhone – Beta Edition Linux SmartPhone Preorder by cubano on Wednesday March 24, 2021 @12:08PM (#26569076)
you cannot possibly be postulating that profitable activities can never be considered useful, are you?
Re:PinePhone – Beta Edition Linux SmartPhone Preorder by jascii on Wednesday March 24, 2021 @12:40PM (#26569557)
I do not see OP stating that "useful" and "profitable" are mutually exclusive. I think it is widely understood that there is "usefulness" that is not satisfied by profit driven organisations, that is why we have non-profits and public institutions.
Re:PinePhone – Beta Edition Linux SmartPhone Preorder by marcus_holmes on Wednesday March 24, 2021 @02:52PM (#26571436)
Call me cynical, but most non-profits seem to be more interested in paying salaries and fundraising than in the actual thing they're supposed to be "about".

And public institutions may serve a useful function, but again seem to be mostly about civil service powerbroking and providing extremely safe employment.

Re:PinePhone – Beta Edition Linux SmartPhone Preorder by jascii on Thursday March 25, 2021 @03:05PM (#26584092)
Fine, I'll call you cynical... ;P

There are certainly (often larger) nonprofits with a tendency of overpaying their leadership and/or pushing policies favored by their corporate funders. I would in this context however not conflate "most visible" (ie largest advertising budgets) with "most". Most nonprofits I have worked with are ran and operated by hardworking people on minimal budgets.

Re:PinePhone – Beta Edition Linux SmartPhone Preorder by wott on Thursday March 25, 2021 @05:57PM (#26585994)
Note that he didn't say overpaying, just paying. It is true that in all organisations (including those associations), as time passes, professionalisation progresses, headcount raises, administrative and secondary tasks develop; and self-preservation, self-replication become a goal of its own. There is a whole range of people (I don't mean leaders or managers, but bottom/middle people) who make a career in all those non-profits, para-public and semi-public associations (all of them living mostly from subsidies), hoping from one to another. At least it goes like that in my country, it has developed a lot in the last 30 years.