Re:Why the Wuhan lab leak theory shouldn't be dismissed
by 8note on Monday March 22, 2021 @05:31PM
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The open question is: are there cases even before those, and outside Wuhan?
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Re:Why the Wuhan lab leak theory shouldn't be dismissed
by coder4life on Monday March 22, 2021 @09:27PM
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We already knew by summer there were cases going back to October 19 in Italy, from saved sewage samples
Recently (3 days ago)
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/03/210318185328.h...
Re:Why the Wuhan lab leak theory shouldn't be dismissed
by tripletao on Tuesday March 23, 2021 @04:21PM
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Note that when the WHO team asked for similar wastewater samples from China, they were told the samples had been discarded:
> They had sought wastewater samples from central China to check if the virus could be detected in sewage from late 2019, but were told those had been discarded, per standard policy, after a month, said Dr. Koopmans.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/china-refuses-to-give-who-raw-d...
So while it's very likely that SARS-CoV-2 was circulating in Italy back in October, it's entirely possible (and likely, I believe) that it was circulating yet earlier in Wuhan; but the evidence to confirm or refute was destroyed.
Re:Why the Wuhan lab leak theory shouldn't be dismissed
by tripletao on Friday April 02, 2021 @09:25AM
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And I'm replying to myself to note that the Italian study has also received an expression of concern. So "very likely" may be an overstatement, and if anything that further reinforces my point (that so far, there's no reason to believe SARS-CoV-2 was spreading outside Wuhan before it spread inside).
https://retractionwatch.com/2021/03/24/paper-claiming-presen...