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Re:Google Translate is inherently biased – An example of an ... by mempko on Monday March 22, 2021 @09:56AM (#26540823)
It doesn't just encode bias but perpetuates it. So yes, the AI is biased.
Re:Google Translate is inherently biased – An example of an ... by fakedang on Monday March 22, 2021 @10:16AM (#26541095)
It's not the AI's inherent bias as such though. It's the bias of the dataset which has more cases of women cooking and men being professors in Hungarian texts.
Re:Google Translate is inherently biased – An example of an ... by BoiledCabbage on Monday March 22, 2021 @11:34AM (#26542288)
> It's not the AI's inherent bias as such though. It's the bias of the dataset...

An engineer builds a chat protocol and app on top of UDP. Chat messages between users frequently never arrive and are lost.

When questioned about it, the engineer says "it's not my app that causing the message loss it's UDP that's causing it."

The engineer selected the communication protocol.

To avoid packet loss, I build retry logic into my app, or build on top of TCP.

Re:Google Translate is inherently biased – An example of an ... by csmpltn on Monday March 22, 2021 @12:11PM (#26542792)
> To avoid packet loss, I build retry logic into my app, or build on top of TCP.

What's the "I used TCP instead of UDP" equivalent of a dataset that can be used to build a perfectly non-biased translation service?

Your comment seems to suggest that everybody seems to deliberately choose the wrong datasets which result in racist and sexist products. What should we use instead then?

Re:Google Translate is inherently biased – An example of an ... by BoiledCabbage on Monday March 22, 2021 @03:34PM (#26545652)
If the underlying layer isn't reliable, build a layer on top to make it reliable.

If the underlying dataset has issues, build a layer on top to address those issues.

Re:Google Translate is inherently biased – An example of an ... by Jasper_ on Monday March 22, 2021 @11:22AM (#26542117)
So AI is taking over the world, and we should just accept that it has severe limitations of just parroting the training data like a Markov chain? This is the algorithm we think can solve everything?
Re:Google Translate is inherently biased – An example of an ... by csmpltn on Monday March 22, 2021 @12:23PM (#26542979)
> So AI is taking over the world, and we should just accept that it has severe limitations of just parroting the training data like a Markov chain? This is the algorithm we think can solve everything?

"No", to both questions.

These systems are a work-in-progress, constantly improving. They have value, even though they are far from perfect.