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Re:Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF by spiritplumber on Monday March 22, 2021 @01:51AM (#26537243)
"Does wearing this thing make me look fat?"

"A bit. If your goal is to look thinner I'd try that other thing instead."

Is this a neurotypical person being a butt, or an autistic person trying to be helpful?

Answer: yes.

Re:Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF by Ekaros on Monday March 22, 2021 @05:52AM (#26538668)
Why is the person answering here considered to be the butt and not the person setting up the trap? Generally I believe it is know that there is no good answers to this question. So maybe we should assign blame on person asking it? That is if they don't really want the honest answer.
Re:Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF by u801e on Monday March 22, 2021 @12:01PM (#26542666)
That's good way to put it. A more obvious trap question would be "have you stopped beating your wife?"
Re:Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF by orthoxerox on Monday March 22, 2021 @04:27AM (#26538113)
It could be a neurotypical Dutch being themselves. Societal norms vary from culture to culture, even within what we call the western world.
Re:Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF by bryanrasmussen on Monday March 22, 2021 @05:02AM (#26538340)
also a Dane I think, frankly it seemed polite.
Re:Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF by wccrawford on Monday March 22, 2021 @07:06AM (#26539200)
American here. I can recognize that it's considered rude here to admit someone is overweight, even if they ask.

So I would never answer this question to someone who didn't love me. And even then, they get offended, even though they ask.

Instead, my answer is, "Nope, not gonna answer that." And then they get mad anyhow.

So the comment above about the "trap" is correct. That person started the rudeness, but they won't take the heat for it.

Re:Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF by ejolto on Monday March 22, 2021 @06:21AM (#26538843)
Also Scandinavian and I agree with you. Also Americans lying about these things are often seen as being fake and thus rude.
Re:Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF by enriquto on Monday March 22, 2021 @07:09AM (#26539227)
As a southern European, I concur that US-ian fake politeness is quite disturbing.
Re:Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF by ethbr0 on Monday March 22, 2021 @07:58AM (#26539590)
As a southern American, I'd chalk a lot of it up to our multiculturalism. There are different parts within the US, where you'd get different answers to that question, almost always!

But I'd say suggestion and (to use the southern term) social grace is one of the most nuanced and culture-heavy forms of communication. In that it assumes a lot of shared culture between you and the other party.

As least down here, with > stranger, < intimate partner, you'd get a "No" in all cases, but the words attached to the no would also differ almost 100% of the time in the "No, but..." case.

And I imagine most of those cues completely disappear cross-culturally.

Re:Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF by enriquto on Monday March 22, 2021 @08:27AM (#26539838)
> most of those cues completely disappear cross-culturally.

If they simply disappeared, it would be alright. The problem is when they have the exact opposite meaning.

One example is US-ian unnaturally white teeth, that supposedly look OK there, but are somewhat creepy in the rest of the world. I mean, human teeth are not supposed to be white, but a range of very light ivory tones.

Re:Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF by ethbr0 on Monday March 22, 2021 @10:37AM (#26541420)
> The problem is when they have the exact opposite meaning

Granted! But also when they have no meaning, or are just... odd (e.g. "That's weird, how do they want me to respond to that reply they just made?")

White teeth are totally creepy here too. If you ask any US dentist, they'll tell you to match eye white (varies from individual to individual) to look natural.

But, then, there's a few "beautiful people" states where norms are so out of whack they don't realize how weird it is.

Re:Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF by dgellow on Monday March 22, 2021 @05:40AM (#26538593)
I'm Swiss (from a French-speaking canton), that seems polite to me too.
Re:Richard Stallman is coming back to the board of the FSF by the-dude on Monday March 22, 2021 @04:52AM (#26538281)
Could you please leave us out of this?