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Re:Tesla orders its first 8k-ton Cybertruck casting machine by wilg on Saturday March 20, 2021 @06:56PM (#26526689)
Is the idea that the Cybertruck is particularly dangerous for pedestrians more than idle speculation?

I mean you're assuming there are no deformation or crumple zones for some reason, which seems ridiculous.

Is it enough to just look at the thing?

Re:Tesla orders its first 8k-ton Cybertruck casting machine by sudosysgen on Saturday March 20, 2021 @07:25PM (#26526844)
It's not enough to look at it, the issue is the shape + a unibody stainless steel outer shell.

Frame + Pane construction allows for crumple zones, I don't see how a unibody stainless steel will allow it.

Re:Tesla orders its first 8k-ton Cybertruck casting machine by judge2020 on Saturday March 20, 2021 @08:45PM (#26527228)
Whatever you hit becomes the crumple zone, aka the other car.

(/s - it probably is going to be super unsafe and get bad safety scores).

Re:Tesla orders its first 8k-ton Cybertruck casting machine by sjwright on Saturday March 20, 2021 @07:24PM (#26526833)
The vehicle shell is sheets of structural steel. It’s not likely to deform usefully when it strikes a wayward meat sack. Combine that with the plethora of small-radius bends that can concentrate the damage quite effectively.

I’ve no doubt that Tesla can make it score well on crash tests though. Crumple zones don’t have to involve literal crumpling of a metal body—it could be achieved with other forms of deformation.

Re:Tesla orders its first 8k-ton Cybertruck casting machine by JosephRedfern on Saturday March 20, 2021 @07:42PM (#26526926)
I don't know anything about car design, but always assaumed that crumple zones mostly protected passengers rather than pedestrians. Is that not the case?
Re:Tesla orders its first 8k-ton Cybertruck casting machine by throwaway0a5e on Saturday March 20, 2021 @09:34PM (#26527431)
The front end of your average modern car has a ton of flimsy plastic in the top of the front bodywork that's for pedestrian protection. It's basically a crumple zone but they don't call it that.
Re:Tesla orders its first 8k-ton Cybertruck casting machine by Gravityloss on Sunday March 21, 2021 @05:44AM (#26529275)
Also the hood / bonnet has softening. In a typical collision the pedestrian's head strikes it, so adding some padding under the surface makes it more survivable. I think you get more stars in crash tests.
Re:Tesla orders its first 8k-ton Cybertruck casting machine by tpmx on Saturday March 20, 2021 @09:51PM (#26527517)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwp6HNa6PrI&t=73 shows this quite well visually. The bonnet is surprisingly flexible.
Re:Tesla orders its first 8k-ton Cybertruck casting machine by rentnorove on Saturday March 20, 2021 @09:40PM (#26527454)
This describes some of the efforts to make frontal impacts less dangerous: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedestrian_safety_through_vehi...
Re:Tesla orders its first 8k-ton Cybertruck casting machine by geoelectric on Saturday March 20, 2021 @10:59PM (#26527786)
They bleed off energy, to the benefit of both.