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Re:Demoscene accepted as UNESCO cultural heritage in Germany by KingOfCoders on Saturday March 20, 2021 @11:29AM (#26523802)
In Germany we had pink PLK cards, which you got without an ID and where you could sent packages to (I held on to mine for a very long time).

One day the police was waiting in front of the post office and got a friend of mine.

Re:Demoscene accepted as UNESCO cultural heritage in Germany by weinzierl on Saturday March 20, 2021 @12:30PM (#26524216)
Grew up in West Germany when the Demoscene was at it's height, but never heard of "pink PLK cards". Could you give a hint what that is?

EDIT: Found it "Postlagerkarte"[1], I have heard that term before, but never was aware what it was. It feels strange that at a time you could do things easily, legally and anonymously, all at the same time. As a minor, at that. Let alone anonymously sending things to strangers. Admittedly I miss that world more than the Demoscene.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postlagerkarte

Re:Demoscene accepted as UNESCO cultural heritage in Germany by ludwigschubert on Saturday March 20, 2021 @12:43PM (#26524296)
Take a look, first-name-fellow! :D https://gotpapers.scene.org/?p=849
Re:Demoscene accepted as UNESCO cultural heritage in Germany by weinzierl on Saturday March 20, 2021 @12:52PM (#26524350)
Thanks, excellent article - no questions left. Günter von Gravenreuth also rings a bell, haven't read that name in a long time.
Re:Demoscene accepted as UNESCO cultural heritage in Germany by jansan on Sunday March 21, 2021 @08:51AM (#26530026)
>Günter von Gravenreuth also rings a bell, haven't read that name in a long time

He died in 2010, maybe that's why we haven't heard much of him recently. De mortuis nil nisi bonum, but he was a bit of an annoyance.

Re:Demoscene accepted as UNESCO cultural heritage in Germany by jansan on Sunday March 21, 2021 @08:36AM (#26529950)
For some reason I totally missed this time. Can you let me know when the demoscene roughly had its peak?

Friends of mine had the police search their houses in 1987 for exchanging cracked C64 games with people all over West Germany. They were still adolescents, so they got away with a 100DM fine.

I was just a harmless teenager, copying games from friends (but also buying quite a few), but it seems I closer to some high profile crackers than I would have imagined. I wonder how many of them became part of the Demoscene.

Re:Demoscene accepted as UNESCO cultural heritage in Germany by bonzini on Saturday March 20, 2021 @12:16PM (#26524118)
This has to be one of the most cryptic comments I have ever read! :D

What is a PLK card, and what did your friend do?!?

Re:Demoscene accepted as UNESCO cultural heritage in Germany by ludwigschubert on Saturday March 20, 2021 @12:33PM (#26524236)
EDIT: I shouldn't have run to Wikipedia; much better explanation at scene.org (go figure): https://gotpapers.scene.org/?p=849

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PLK = "PostLagerKarte", literally "mail storage card". It was (abolished 1991) a way to receive letters anonymously; like a P.O. box without your name attached to it. The [Wikipedia page](https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postlagerkarte) even explicitly mentions its "illegal usage in the computing scene", so GP was likely referring to his friend using their P.O. box for (illegally) cracked software.

Here's a shot at translating that Wikipedia paragraph:

> Until their abolition, PLK cards were especially popular in the cracker scene because, compared to a regular P.O. box, no personal data had to be shared with the respective post office. PLKs were primarily used for anonymous sending and receiving of pirated software on floppy disks. [citation needed imho] The PLK addresses themselves were often listed digitally in the cracktros.

Re:Demoscene accepted as UNESCO cultural heritage in Germany by detaro on Saturday March 20, 2021 @12:22PM (#26524152)
pretty much a temporary "PO box" you could get anonymously. You bought a card with a code from your post office, and then people could send stuff to the post office addressed to that number, and the card holder could pick them up. Relatively popular with the cracker/warez szene.