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Re:Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser ... by asaddhamani on Friday March 19, 2021 @11:16PM (#26520547)
How about sending notifications over email?
Re:Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser ... by heavyset_go on Friday March 19, 2021 @11:57PM (#26520707)
See this post[1]. We already do text and email notifications. Not all phones and tablets get texts, and email notifications are unreliable. Many users wanted desktop and mobile notifications, hence why we implemented them on top of texts and emails.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26520303

Re:Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser ... by bashinator on Saturday March 20, 2021 @05:17PM (#26526118)
I use apps like this to manage my health care. Email would be a significantly worse experience than notifications.
Re:Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser ... by yunohn on Saturday March 20, 2021 @02:41AM (#26521265)
This speaks to your inexperience in making applications for the average user - they barely use email.
Re:Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser ... by Jcowell on Saturday March 20, 2021 @03:21AM (#26521407)
> This speaks to your inexperience in making applications for the average user - they barely use email.

Do you find that most users do authentication via phone number instead of email?

Re:Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser ... by onion2k on Saturday March 20, 2021 @03:12AM (#26521387)
The speaks to your inexperience making applications - using anecdotes and assumptions about "the average user" to determine what to do is nowhere near as useful as asking your actual users. Real data is better than guesswork.
Re:Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser ... by yunohn on Saturday March 20, 2021 @03:18AM (#26521400)
I have built global apps, and found that users struggle to even accept email address confirmations. The reality is that email is dying.
Re:Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser ... by JumpCrisscross on Saturday March 20, 2021 @04:04AM (#26521557)
> users struggle to even accept email address confirmations

This experience is geographically or demographically unique.

Re:Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser ... by onion2k on Saturday March 20, 2021 @03:51AM (#26521498)
That's true for the users you've seen. My users all open emails with no problem.

Now do you see why "the average user" isn't useful to determine how to build something? Even if most people suck at using email, in my app it works well.

Re:Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser ... by yunohn on Saturday March 20, 2021 @04:08AM (#26521571)
So you would agree that some users can prefer notifications over email/sms, or is that line of reasoning only self-serving?
Re:Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser ... by onion2k on Saturday March 20, 2021 @04:23AM (#26521628)
I absolutely agree that different groups of users want different things. An "average user" isn't useful in determining that.
Re:Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser ... by yunohn on Saturday March 20, 2021 @06:30AM (#26522048)
Which is exactly why you can continue emailing your users, while others like me would like an option to use notifications and other PWA features.
Re:Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser ... by sdfhbdf on Saturday March 20, 2021 @08:06AM (#26522604)
> This speaks to your inexperience

Please be kind and not sneer as the guidelines suggest.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

You could easily reword you comment to.

> In my experience the average user barely uses email.

Unless you know parent commenter personally I don't think you're competent enough to judge their experience in an online discussion.