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Re:Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser ... by chrisseaton on Friday March 19, 2021 @10:21PM (#26520230)
Isn’t the entire point of progressive web apps that they’re tolerant of different features being available or not? That’s ‘progressive enhancement’. Your app is supposed to work if the functionality isn’t there, or equally if it’s there but denied access. You can have it show updates when the user checks the app if that’s what they want.

Complaining a browser doesn’t support a progressive feature is a contradiction in terms!

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Re:Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser ... by heavyset_go on Friday March 19, 2021 @10:26PM (#26520255)
It works, but users don't get the notifications they sign up for and expect without using a native app on iOS.
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Re:Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser ... by 3np on Friday March 19, 2021 @10:49PM (#26520387)
Apart from chat, what are use-cases where users actually want notifications, as opposed to being coerced or tricked into accepting them?
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Re:Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser ... by heavyset_go on Friday March 19, 2021 @11:06PM (#26520493)
The app helps sick patients navigate the healthcare system. Users get notifications like "Your prescriptions are ready for pickup" or "Your prescriptions are scheduled for delivery at 5PM", and it's a user requested feature.
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Re:Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser ... by NegativeLatency on Friday March 19, 2021 @11:03PM (#26520475)
As an iOS user I generally don’t want notifications from apps
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Re:Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser ... by chrisseaton on Friday March 19, 2021 @10:27PM (#26520263)
Right... isn’t that the whole point of progressive web apps? Users get as many features as their browser supports or they permit? That’s the point.

If your app doesn’t work like that then it’s not progressive... so you can’t complain it doesn’t support your progressive app because it’s not progressive.

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Re:Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser ... by heavyset_go on Friday March 19, 2021 @10:39PM (#26520332)
Try explaining to users that the feature they want and expect doesn't work for them because their particular browser doesn't support it, despite it working on every other browser and platform.

The only solution I see is telling users to "use the app", which doesn't exist yet.

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Re:Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser ... by bluecalm on Saturday March 20, 2021 @02:32AM (#26521235)
You tell them it doesn't work on iPhone because of Apple policy such and such and to go complain to Apple if they want the feature. If enough people do it then maybe things change. If developers continue caving and not letting users know there will be no pressure on Apple.
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Re:Safari is now probably the influential wild card browser ... by heavyset_go on Saturday March 20, 2021 @04:58PM (#26526025)
I agree on principle, but I'm not telling sick people that.
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