Re:Ghana will no longer sell cocoa to Switzerland
by foobarian on Friday March 19, 2021 @04:20PM
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Speaking of the Ottoman empire, when I watched a Turkish show recently I was surprised to hear a number of words I had no idea were Turkish origin. (Well, could be the other way around too I guess. But they sounded Turkish.) Sanduk, čizma, budala, paramparčad, kapija, sandžak, inat, kutija, ajde just off the top of my head.
The German connection is definitely there. There was even a transliterated word used for people working abroad: "gastarbajter," from German Gastarbeiter. And it was used for anyone working abroad, no matter where :-)
Edit: https://en.wiktionary.org/w/index.php?title=Category:Serbo-C... . I can't believe "boja" is borrowed.
Re:Ghana will no longer sell cocoa to Switzerland
by Mediterraneo10 on Friday March 19, 2021 @02:28PM
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Public/state workers and university students were a small elite until the 20th century, as were schoolchildren until a fairly late date. Also, the demographics you speak of were males, meaning that you are leaving out a half of the population.
Certainly German words in Croatian testify to contacts at some level of the population. Romanian, too, abounds in German words in some domains, for example, but this doesn’t mean the average Romanian would have been able to speak any German. But in Croatia knowledge of German varied greatly from the country’s northwest to its south. Again, the sociolinguistics of the Austro-Hungarian Empire are well-described.
You don't build a bond with some nation and culture over the course of one century it takes more than that. For example like you probably know Ottoman Empire was ruling and controlling south-east Europe for 500 years and impact of that is very much visible and present today.