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Re:Norwegian experts say blood clots were caused by the Astr... by eastendguy on Thursday March 18, 2021 @11:51AM (#26503929)
Yep, this^ is the point. It is amazing that this key point is missed in so many discussions.

Now.. maybe it is still worth the risk for a young 20 year old female, but I am not so sure - especially since we luckily have other vaccines that do not show this risk.

Re:Norwegian experts say blood clots were caused by the Astr... by Retric on Thursday March 18, 2021 @12:06PM (#26504101)
There are safer vaccines so there is little point in risking this one. That said, it depends on how many future infections people that age face.

If this vaccine is causing at most 4 deaths per million people* vs 648 recorded US covid deaths 15-24 out of a population of 43.5 million. 4 * 43.5 = ~174 < 648. So, it would have been noticeably safer for a random 20 year old American to have taken it Jan 2020 than risk covid. https://knoema.com/atlas/United-States-of-America/topics/Dem...

So if the total future infections are say 1/4 the total infections up to this point then their roughly equivalent risks. Tipping one way or the other based on actual number of infections.

* It’s rare enough that actual risks aren’t clear, but assuming the vaccine is the cause we can assume the risks are at or below that level.

Re:Norwegian experts say blood clots were caused by the Astr... by tim333 on Thursday March 18, 2021 @05:09PM (#26507582)
Well it's certainly worth doing risk reward calculations but so far they seem pretty clearly in favour of taking the vaccine.
Re:Norwegian experts say blood clots were caused by the Astr... by jobigoud on Friday March 19, 2021 @05:27AM (#26511420)
If you assume you are 100% getting the virus maybe. But if you take a lot of precautions, work from home, don't get out unless necessary, wear a mask... it's not clear at all.
Re:Norwegian experts say blood clots were caused by the Astr... by tim333 on Friday March 19, 2021 @08:29AM (#26512488)
I guess if you are very low risk. I figure as a guestimate - people killed by vaccines - prob less that 1 a day. People killed by covid - about 7000 a day. So covid looks worse. Not a sophisticated analysis although the regulators do do those.