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Re:Australia: Sex consent app proposal sparks backlash by eru on Thursday March 18, 2021 @05:49AM (#26501020)
> There is simply no other way for anyone to feel safe than to simply abstain.

Well, it's the same as with anti-natalism:

People who don't care about this stuff, will still have kids / take 'consent risks' to have sex.

An important complication about the topic at hand is that a lot of human courtship / flirting, involves plausible deniability. Eg extensive eye contact in a bar can indicate sexual interest, or perhaps you just have a booger on your nose.

Similarly, status and power play are just as much ingrained in human psyche as sexual behaviour. So there's lots of overlap. Lots of people enjoy when their prospective mate is a bit brazen (or, the opposite, plays extra shy).

Playing with social convention is a big part.

Human behaviour is messy.

Re:Australia: Sex consent app proposal sparks backlash by skohan on Thursday March 18, 2021 @06:12AM (#26501159)
You're absolutely right. Human sexuality predates language, so it shouldn't be surprising that it continues to have a non-verbal, sub-rational component.

I think the discussion of explicit consent is really intended as guidance for children/teenagers who don't the dance yet. For experienced adults it's possible to navigate all of these grey areas and read the underlying signals while being crystal clear about playing within the boundaries which are acceptable to both sides. But for kids who are still figuring this out, it's perfectly reasonable to suggest that people use their words and be unambiguous.