Re:Visa Plans to Enable Bitcoin Payments at 70M Merchants
by flatline on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @04:47PM
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You may have been downvoted for a snarky tone, but this is the first time I've seen it mentioned here - bitcoin is taxed as a commodity in the US, each exchange is a capital gain or loss.
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Re:Visa Plans to Enable Bitcoin Payments at 70M Merchants
by Consultant32452 on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @04:55PM
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This is the poison pill for BTC in my opinion. I have a very small amount of BTC and this is the primary reason I don't have a larger investment, don't make more of an attempt to use it as currency, etc. The central banks/governments aren't going to give up their power so easily. They may have low-key destroyed crypto by considering them commodities.
The only way crypto can win* is if a plurality of people just choose not to follow the tax laws. It has to be enough people that it becomes unenforceable.
win* in this case is defined as being a 1st order currency largely unencumbered by central banking/government authority.
Re:Visa Plans to Enable Bitcoin Payments at 70M Merchants
by imtringued on Thursday March 18, 2021 @06:59AM
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>The only way crypto can win* is if a plurality of people just choose not to follow the tax laws. It has to be enough people that it becomes unenforceable.
That's impossible if you spend your Bitcoin via Visa.
Re:Visa Plans to Enable Bitcoin Payments at 70M Merchants
by rawtxapp on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @05:30PM
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You can just borrow against it to spend it. No tax whatsoever and you hold on to your asset.
Re:Visa Plans to Enable Bitcoin Payments at 70M Merchants
by lxgr on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @07:50PM
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How do you eventually repay that loan (or at least pay interest)?
Re:Visa Plans to Enable Bitcoin Payments at 70M Merchants
by lmm on Thursday March 18, 2021 @12:48AM
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Guessing: you can sync up once a year (or even once every 5 or 10 years) and pay taxes on that transaction at that day's price.
Re:Visa Plans to Enable Bitcoin Payments at 70M Merchants
by imtringued on Thursday March 18, 2021 @07:02AM
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That's ok if you are happy with shifting the tax date. I can definitively see how this decreases the accounting burden but not the tax burden.
Re:Visa Plans to Enable Bitcoin Payments at 70M Merchants
by midasuni on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @05:07PM
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If you buy euros with dollars, keep them, then buy dollars back, is that lunged as capital gain/loss?
Re:Visa Plans to Enable Bitcoin Payments at 70M Merchants
by cwkoss on Wednesday March 17, 2021 @05:23PM
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I believe currency trading has special tax treatments distinct from commodities.
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/forex/09/forex-taxatio...